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Re: PSYCHIATRY: AN INDUSTRY OF DEATH         


Author: Pat
Date: Jan 6, 2007 15:01

Wrong!

It was produced by Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, which is a
non-profit organization (as is Scientology, for that matter).

Show me one thing in this DVD that isn't true.

Pat
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Re: PSYCHIATRY: AN INDUSTRY OF DEATH         


Author: Ronnie Marks
Date: Jan 6, 2007 18:28

Sometime near Sat, 6 Jan 2007 15:01:13 -0800, "Pat" uswest.net> may
have written:
>Wrong!
>
>It was produced by Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, which is a
>non-profit organization (as is Scientology, for that matter).

Wrong!

According to the "Church of Spritual Technology", the mother organization of all
of scientology, they own the CCHR, and it is just a part of the "Church of
Scientology". At least, that is what they tell the IRS.

Did they lie to the IRS? No, they didn't. You just don't want to admit that
the CCHR is simply a front group for the cult, just like Narconon.
--
There is a tragic flaw in our precious Constitution, and I don?t know what can be done to fix it. This is it: Only nut cases want to be president.
- Kurt Vonnegut
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Re: PSYCHIATRY: AN INDUSTRY OF DEATH         


Author: Ronnie Marks
Date: Jan 6, 2007 18:42

From another web site:

"If anyone disputes that Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR) is part of
Scientology, they can look at issue #27 of International Scientology News, dated
May 2004. An article called "A Turning Point In Our History" discusses how
Scientology is moving to expand its operations, to achieve its goal of "clearing
the planet".

In the article there is a discussion of the Public Divisions, part of the "org
board" of every Scientology church. Division 6C of the org board is responsible
for "Field Activity", i.e., the front groups that Scientology uses to make
inroads into society. In the [] image below, [on] page 21, you can see the
Applied Scholastics, CCHR and Narconon logos.

According to the formerly secret closing agreement between the Church of
Scientology and the American Internal Revenue Service (IRS), CCHR is one of the
many "Scientology-related entities". As such they fulfill Scientology's stated
goal to take over the field of mental health."

http://www.xenu.net/archive/IRS/index.html

From the IRS document:

C. Group Determination Letters.

[...]
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PSYCHIATRY: AN INDUSTRY OF DEATH         


Author: Pat
Date: Jan 6, 2007 10:32

Psychiatry: An Industry of Death Documentary DVD with Booklet

The DVD companion brochure contains over 150 photos and graphics that track
the history of psychiatry from it's macabre 18th century origins to today,
where 100,000 patients die each year in psychiatric institutions and 20
million children have been put on potentially lethal, mind-altering drugs.

We think you have the right to know the cold, hard facts about psychiatry,
its practitioners and the threat they pose to our children.

http://www.google.com/base/a/1348122/D10960212554566901221

This will tell you the truth.

Pat
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Re: PSYCHIATRY: AN INDUSTRY OF DEATH         


Author: Eru Ilúvatar
Date: Jan 6, 2007 10:44

Pat uswest.net> wrote:
>Psychiatry: An Industry of Death Documentary DVD with Booklet

When will you silly scientology creeps give up on those lies?
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Re: PSYCHIATRY: AN INDUSTRY OF DEATH         


Author: Pat
Date: Jan 7, 2007 07:35

Show me one revelation in the Documentary that isn't true.

Pat

"Eru Ilúvatar" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:666$H03.24k63.5I5O.m1NISgaY.101g4f04.K$082chG5.00224tf0OK2fgO206a6@8K146fI8O6lI.4iK946748hL4...
> Pat uswest.net> wrote:
>
>>Psychiatry: An Industry of Death Documentary DVD with Booklet
>
> When will you silly scientology creeps give up on those lies?
>
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Re: PSYCHIATRY: AN INDUSTRY OF DEATH         


Author: Pat
Date: Jan 7, 2007 11:42

That's an empty offer. But, I'll take you up on that..

Send me your address.

Pat

"Ronnie Marks" RonnieMarks.org> wrote in message
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> Sometime near Sun, 7 Jan 2007 07:35:09 -0800, "Pat" uswest.net>
> may
> have written:
>
>>Show me one revelation in the Documentary that isn't true.
>>
>>Pat
>
> Send me a DVD and I'll gladly rip it apart for you.
> --
> There is a tragic flaw in our precious Constitution, and I don?t know what
> can be done to fix it. This is it: Only nut cases want to be president.
> - Kurt Vonnegut
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Re: PSYCHIATRY: AN INDUSTRY OF DEATH         


Author: Pat
Date: Jan 7, 2007 21:04

Certainly not to a General Delivery addresss. You can get one of your own at
the New York org.

What's amazing to me is that you didn't have the courage to give me a real
address or email beyond using a pirated version of Forte Agent newsreader,
and you actually were stupid enough to say the DVD was lies when you've
never seen it, and believe what xenu writes without thinking for yourself.

Also, you claim Scientology owns CCHR and Narconon because the IRS refers to
them as subordinate to the Church of Scientology International. Clear up
your misunderstood and start verifying what you read on xenu before making
yourself look foolish by passing on their tripe.

Pat
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Re: PSYCHIATRY: AN INDUSTRY OF DEATH         


Author: John Uebersax
Date: Jan 8, 2007 02:24

The relevance of your post to the alt.psychology.jung,
alt.psychology.psychoanalysis, and the alt.psychology.tanspersonal
newsgroups isn't clear. These groups promote psychotherapy and
counseling, not use of "mind-altering" drugs.

I'm no fan of psychiatric medication in general and ADD drugs in
particular. But you're only presenting one side of the story. What
about people who've been helped by psychiatry?

Don't you think a fair, and balanced picture would be more appropriate
to present?

You may have a valid point, but you're presenting it with the same old
"rhetoric of hate".
If one wanted to pursue your argument to it's extreme, one could blame
tens of millions of deaths on the medical industry in general, allude
to it's "potentially lethal, body altering drugs", it's macabre origins
(leeches, etc.).
> the threat they pose to our children.

Parents have the responsibility to keep their kids off ADD meds. If
you want to help stop that, write constructive, informative, material
that explains why and how they should.
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Re: PSYCHIATRY: AN INDUSTRY OF DEATH         


Author: Pat
Date: Jan 8, 2007 16:42

CCHR is not part of any cult that I know of

What proof did you give me that CCHR is part of a cult?
> You can keep saying that you deny that CCHR is part of the cult, but in
> the face
> of some real proof, some of it from the cult itself, you seem unable to
> deal
> with reality.
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