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Re: 75%% Of MCS Patients Are Nuts         


Author: dank
Date: Oct 14, 2007 23:34

Mark Thorson wrote (quoting chemical industry study)...
> METHOD: Within a 2-year period we
> examined 264 of 267 consecutive
> patients prospectively presenting to a university
> based out-patient department for environmental
> medicine. Patients underwent routine medical
> examination, toxicological analysis and the
> structured clinical interview for DSM-IV
> psychiatric disorders (SCID).
>
> RESULTS: Seventy-five per cent of the patients
> met DSM-IV criteria for at least one psychiatric
> disorder and 35%% of all patients suffered from
> somatoform disorders. Other frequent diagnoses
> were affective and anxiety disorders, and
> dependence or substance abuse. In 39%%
> a psychiatric disorder, in 23%% a somatic
> condition and in 19%% a combination of the two
> were considered to provide sufficient
> explanation of the symptoms. Toxic chemicals ...
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Re: 75%% Of MCS Patients Are Nuts         


Author: ªºª rrock
Date: Oct 15, 2007 00:10

dank wrote:
> Mark Thorson wrote (quoting chemical industry study)...
>
>> METHOD: Within a 2-year period we
>> examined 264 of 267 consecutive
>> patients prospectively presenting to a university
>> based out-patient...
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Re: 75%% Of MCS Patients Are Nuts         


Author: Medusa
Date: Oct 15, 2007 08:17

On Oct 15, 2:10 am,
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Re: 75%% Of MCS Patients Are Nuts         


Author: Medusa
Date: Oct 15, 2007 08:18

On Oct 15, 1:34 am, dank nugget.org> wrote:
> I don't think I have MCS, but I can't stand artificial fragrances and
> resent how every consumer product is loaded with cheap industrial
> perfume, and how my co-workers wear so much perfume, deodorent, skin
> lotions, etc. that it makes me feel nauseous and distracts me from my
> work. They are all so fucking mentally hygienic for thinking they
> smell good, while I suffer from a DSM-IV mental disorder for thinking
> they stink.

Sounds like you are beginning to get MCS. Anthing that makes you feel
"nauseous" is a warning sign from your body that something is not
right. Same for the headaches that stinky garbage gives some people.
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Re: 75%% Of MCS Patients Are Nuts         


Author: ªºª rrock
Date: Oct 15, 2007 11:06

Medusa wrote:
> On Oct 15, 2:10 am, ªºª rrock wrote:
>
>
>>That's the core of the problem right there. If more people smoked,
>>they wouldn't have such sensitive noses.
>
>
> I hope you were trying to be funny here.
>
> The problem is NOT the "smell" of the substances; it's the chemicals
> behind the scents.
>
> Medusa
>
> AA #2281

What's the difference? If more people smoked, there would be
less need for anyone to be using those chemicals. The scenario sort of
reminds me of "free speech". On one side you have people that want to...
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Re: 75%% Of MCS Patients Are Nuts         


Author: Medusa
Date: Oct 15, 2007 12:19

On Oct 15, 1:06 pm,
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Re: 75%% Of MCS Patients Are Nuts         


Author: ªºª rrock
Date: Oct 15, 2007 13:23

Medusa wrote:
> On Oct 15, 1:06 pm, ªºª rrock wrote:
>
>
>>Medusa wrote:
>>
>>>I hope you were trying to be funny here.
>>
>>>The problem is NOT the "smell" of the substances; it's the chemicals...
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Re: 75%% Of MCS Patients Are Nuts         


Author: dank
Date: Oct 18, 2007 12:41

ªºª rrock wrote...
>Someone else wrote...
>> You still don't get it. It's not that I consider some smells to be
>> unpleasant; it's that the chenicals behind some smells make me sick.
>>
>
> Nobody is forcing you to smell them, though, correct? It's like you saying
> that the guy on the street corner should be banned from ranting that the
> world is coming to an end simply because you can't tolerate listening to
> him.

But they are forcing me to smell them. I just got back from Target and
was overwhelmed by fumes on the soap aisle as I looked for my favorite
brand of unscented soap (which they didn't carry). One female co-worker
knew I disliked fragrance and insisted on applying perfume in front of
me. She was especially obnoxious, closing the windows on nice days and
proceeding to spray air odorizer to "freshen" the air and make me gag.
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Re: 75%% Of MCS Patients Are Nuts         


Author: Mark Thorson
Date: Oct 18, 2007 12:56

dank wrote:
>
> But they are forcing me to smell them. I just got back from Target and
> was overwhelmed by fumes on the soap aisle as I looked for my favorite
> brand of unscented soap (which they didn't carry). One female co-worker
> knew I disliked fragrance and insisted on applying perfume in front of
> me. She was especially obnoxious, closing the windows on nice days and
> proceeding to spray air odorizer to "freshen" the air and make me gag.

Yes, you're being persecuted! It's not your fault!
It's their fault!
> Assuming the chemicals in artificial fragrances are safe, is it polite
> to force others to smell them against their will? Maybe I should go
> around farting in people's faces, and dismissing their objections on
> the grounds that farts are harmless. Maybe I should apply a natural
> cologne made of essence of garlic and cat urine and then tell my
> co-workers they should seek psychiatric treatment when they complain.

Yes, you deserve justice! You deserve revenge!
You've got the right attitude to become an MCS
patient.
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Re: 75%% Of MCS Patients Are Nuts         


Author: The One True Zhen Jue
Date: Oct 18, 2007 13:26

On Oct 18, 3:41 pm, dank nugget.org> wrote:
>
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