On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:45:41 -0800, sephigirl wrote:
> On Dec 22, 1:40pm, "E. Liddell"
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:54:27 -0800, sephigirl wrote:
>>> On Nov 25, 6:17pm, "E. Liddell"
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:34:00 -0800, spam wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 20, 12:06 pm, sephigirl
yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>>> On Nov 19, 4:31 pm, s...@
deathquaker.org wrote:> On Nov 19, 1:09 pm, sephigirl
yahoo.com> wrote:>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 10:02 am, "E. Liddell"
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> [snipping to address a few odd individual points]
>>
>>>>>> I don't have to befriend Hades; any character can use him;
>>>>>> I don't have to level up all his many, many skills. There he is, he
>>>>>> does normal step leveling and that's it.
>>
>>>>> I am assuming this refers to some other FF game where you have to
>>>>> level up your summons? That *is* ridiculous.
>>
>>>> I think that was FFVIII (also X, to some extent, although you could
>>>> safely ignore it there). XII I'm not sure about--I beat the game
>>>> without using the summons more times than I could count on my hands.
>>
>>> Yes, FF VIII - you have to choose which attribute for your summons yu
>>> want to strengthen and once that's done, you move to another
>>> attribute. Also, with FFVIII, I hated the idea that some summons were
>>> more for one character than another.
>>
>> They were? I never noticed. Honestly. It's true that some *combinations*
>> of summons worked better, but it never seemed to matter what character I
>> placed them on. (Of course, my "Universal Tank" playing style may have
>> had something to do with that . . .)
>
> Yeah - in the game guide, they mentioned something to the fact that
> certain summons would grow/do better when attached to certain
> characters. Granted, that's not true in VII, but I love to give Hades
> to Tifa. Destructo-girl.
Yeah, my playing style would have caused me not to notice--or care, very
much. I actually played most of the way back through FFVIII once
without casting more than 2-3 summons total.
>>>I also felt the summons battles
>>> were tough, esp. for early in the game. But that's me.
>>
>>
>
> But if you wanted to get any of the summons . . . you had to battle
> them. And that damned Cerberus - I could never win, never! To win
> the final battle, I think you need his special skills, plus other
> summons' skills.
Um, no--to win the final battle, you need Squall's ultimate limit break,
some protective/healing spells, and a little luck to make sure the
characters you've groomed for it come up instead of, say, Selphie (bleh).
>>> >
>>>> BTW, Katherine, I think I finally figured out what Koyasu Takehito's
>>>> doing this season: voicing the title character in "Majin Tantei
>>>> Nougami Neuro", a demon who eats mysteries (and uses a high school
>>>> girl as a blind to deflect people's attention from him). I'm 90%% sure
>>>> it's got to be Koyasu--no other seiyuu I can think of can switch
>>>> between silly and serious that way.
>>
>>> Looked it up - yes Koyasu is the voice. And, wow, the character is so
>>> not attractive.
>>
>> What, you don't like the bright blue suit and the weird things dangling
>> from his hair?
>
> I miss his pretty period - Touga, Aya, Zechs, Hotohori . . . I don't
> like his wierd period - Betterman, Faust . . .
You could always write the anime studios and demand that they give
the poor man better roles . . .
>> ...
>>
>> Neither do I, really. He only manages to look halfway attractive when
>> he's striking a certain kind of smug pose. Still better than a certain
>> villainous starfish from Final Fantasy: Unlimited. ;P
>
> Oh God! Poor Koyasu! You know he signed the dotted line, thinking,
> "oh yes, I'm going to be a part of the Final Fantasy legacy." Then he
> saw his character . . . And started drinking.
Actually, I think he probably gets a bit of a charge out of
playing weirdos.
>> (The currently-running anime season is a little disappointing overall.
>> Only three really good shows--a comedy, a drama about shougi (Japanese
>> chess), and a holdover from last season. The rest of what I've sampled is
>> little more than brain candy, alas. No decent dark-supernatural or high
>> fantasy that I've found yet. Certainly nothing on the level of Utena,
>> Escaflowne, or Noein, but then you only get one of those every few years . . .)
>>
> I'm so behind in current anime . . . InuYasha is so freaking' long!
> It takes up my time when I do watch anime!
I haven't even tried to watch InuYasha--I knew from the moment I heard it
was based on a Rumiko Takahashi manga that I probably wouldn't like it
much. The only long series that has me suckered in at the moment is
Bleach, and I can easily keep up with one episode a week. (1-2 episodes
with lunch every day means that I can usually follow about ten series.)
Damnit, I want something more along the lines of Yami no Matsuei
or Mirage of Blaze (and not just because of the yaoi content, either), or
at least Utawarerumono. Or even Claymore, which was one of this summer's
guilty-pleasure series.
>>> Even so, my purpose in ths world is make Koyasu's monthly house
>>> payments by all the stuff I purchase that is related to anything he
>>> does . . . ^_^
>>
>> Heh. Personally, I think that Hayami Sho is a better seiyuu, although
>> Koyasu ranks a close second. And Koyasu-dono is certainly more prolific.
>
> Jiras' mom loves Sho's voice. To me, Koyasu speaks so clearly that I
> understand what little Japanese I still remember. His voice is so
> clear -- as a fellow actor, I really admire him.
Ironically, Koyasu's first really big role as a seiyuu was as Izumi in
Zetsuai 1989 . . . with the other lead being played by Sho.
>>> >
>>
>>> E., Are you mocking my beloved Seymour? I'll never play X most
>>> likely, but I have his doll (normal, sexy Seymour, not morphed
>>> Seymour) and I have this wonderful HK sub of just the movie bits from
>>> FFX - and I love his seiyuu's voice. And I *love* the way he's so
>>> into Yuna (the clueless wonder). Villain/scmillian - he just needs
>>> love. ^__^ I started a fanfic based on his youth and what caused him
>>> to be the way he is now. My poor sexy boy with the nerd name.
>>
>> I think my problem with Seymour stems mostly from the fact that his
>> English-language VA makes him sound like he's perpetually stoned (and
>> has *way* too high-pitched a voice to begin with.) I really wish they'd
>> offered the option of playing through FFX with the original voice track
>> and subtitles (heck, they had the subtitles already, so it would just
>> have been a matter of adding a second voice track and a menu option . . .),
>> since *all* of the voices struck me as substandard in places.
>
> I don't get it myself. I mean Disgaea does that - with JP voices and
> subtitles (Koyasu *and* Hikaru). I'm terrifed to actually play thru
> Kingdom Hearts because I'll hear LANCE BASS as Sephiroth! Good gawd
> almighty - an N'Sync boy voicing such a cool character!
$DEITY, I hate the things entertainment executives do to
foreign properties in the name of their misguided concept of "popular
appeal".
>>>
>>> No, no if FF VIII - your first mission - you'll get demerits for chit
>>> chatting - it's either stated by my oh-so-sexy Seifer in the game, or
>>> it was in the guide. Can't remember after all these years . . .
>>
>> Mmph. That would explain why I didn't remember it--I never worried much
>> about the SeeD ranking I got out of that stupid mission, since the
>> multiple-choice tests to advance were set up in such a way that you
>> couldn't really fail them.
>
> Heh - I cheated anyway and took them out of the book.
It isn't like your SeeD rank really matters, anyway--all it gets you is
money, and about all you can do with money is buy opportunities to draw
Ultima without having to fight critters for it, since items are
effectively useless in that game (well, okay, it's useful to be able to
convert Antidotes into Bio spells in the early game when you don't have
anything decent to junction, but after that . . .)
>> After all, it isn't necessary to play these games perfectly to win them.
>>
>>>>> As for complex leveling, it depends on how well the leveling system is
>>>>> designed, and how well explained it is. I like to customize my
>>>>> characters as I level up, but it shouldn't be a chore.
>
> I prefer the old-fashioned FF VII method - I have Tifa do a lot of
> fighting, I have Red use a lotta' magic . . . that sort of thing. I
> want my characters interchangeable actually.
Whereas I just want a good set of tanks, most of the time. My normal
FFVII party consists of Cloud, Vincent, and Tifa, all of whom are pretty
good at pounding on things. ;)
>>> Anj is almost done with XII - she had no problem leveling up and
>>> filling up her nodes. I was so incredibly frustrated, I just put the
>>> game away to collect dust. I love Vayne so much, but . . .
>>
>> I'm not sure I would class it as *difficult*, exactly, but that game
>> did have a lot of frustrating aspects, IMHO, mostly having to do with
>> either the weapons/armour half of the advancement grid, or the gambit
>> system, which was neither very well thought out nor very well-documented.
>> I found that the easiest way out was to first, pick a main party (in my
>> case, Bathier, Basch, and Ashe) and not bother trying to level any
>> other characters, and second, collect enough experience to fill out
>> someone's grid (specifically, in my case, Balthier's) completely. I don't
>> know how many hours I spent running around that stupid mine with Larsa
>> tagging along after me, picking up EXP because there was a @#$%%^ hunt
>> mark sitting across the path to the next boss and I wasn't strong enough
>> to kill it . . . The other two tricks are to fill as many of your gambit
>> slots as possible with healing spells/items, and have your main character
>> use a distance weapon so that you can have him circle around the edges of
>> boss fights and regain MP. It worked well enough--I finished the game and
>> most (I don't think quite all) of the optional Clan Hunt sidequests, and
>> collected more than half of the bloody useless espers.
>
> Too hard . . . too hard! ^__^ Another game I own and will never
> play.
Not *that* hard, and doesn't require much in the way of dex or reaction
times from the player, thankfully. You just have to be willing to grind
a bit to make things easier on yourself.
>Btw - off topic - I found a disturbing fan-art of Larsa over
> Vayne, 1/2 naked with knives. Of course I kept the image, even if it
> was disturbing. ^_^
If they're only half-naked and neither of them's tied up, that barely
trips my disturb-o-meter. ~_H;;;;
>>> Now - in March - CRISIS CORE! *fangirl swooning possible* Zackie,
>>> Sephi (before he went bye bye) . . . Will buy PSP when the game's
>>> released -- cannot wait!
>>
>> Heh. Did you ever get Dirge of Cerberus?
>
> Yes. Laughing over Vincent's hoarse, wine-soaked voice. I can barely
> survive the tutorial, so will see if I try the game. Shoot 'em up
> games aren't my thing. But if there's a chance I can shoot
> Yuffie . . . I'm there!
I'm going to have to give it a try sometime. Yuffie deserves
to be shot almost as much as Selphie does.
>> E. Liddell, and her endless game of Dwarf Fortress. Oh, well, at least
>> I'm almost finished the Lunar fic.
>
> Yeh!
Completely finished, as of the morning of Christmas Eve. It did end up
running to over 80000 words--full novel length. And I only started in
August.
> I need to write *some*thing - real, fanfic, anything! The
> imagination's churning out ideas, but . . . Send your Muse over
> would you? Wait, when he's here, I really don't get any writing
> done . . . Never mind.
Sorry, I need the bastard myself. Good luck, though.
E. Liddell, who even managed to update her website. Now I just need
to finish the Crystal Weaver Saga, and I'll be all set.
