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  Re: [OT] Economy in Free Fall, Wall Street Punishes Fed for Not Giving Out Free Money         


Author: Doug
Date: Jan 17, 2008 23:24

"T Jr Hardman" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f0f90442-c29b-4789-9841-2f89a6720565@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> The economy is headed into free fall, with major banks nationwide
> posting astonishing losses of a magnitude not seen since the beginning
> of the Great Depression. As in the Great Depression, mixed signals
> proliferate throughout hte economy, causing confusion and
> consternation. The President literally did a song and dance for the
> Saudis, begging them to increase production, and the Saudis responded
> that they'd start pumping more oil then the market warranted increased
> production. The Saudi understand, but the President will not publicly
> admit, that perhaps as much as 50 percent of the high price of oil is
> due not to increased consumption or decreased production, but due to
> massive and widespread speculation in the oil futures market, in which
> the same major players who gave us the housing bubble -- and "special
> investment vehicles" in the subprime mortgage resale market -- have
> created an "energy bubble" as an attempt to stave off their immanent
> collapse and fire-sale to foreign "sovereign investment groups".
>
> Wall Street firms have been playing dodgem-games in the last few ...
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  Re: #Financial panic erupts in UK         


Author: Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )
Date: Jan 17, 2008 22:38

3921 Dead wrote:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/jan/18/property.moneyinvestments
>
> Panic selling shuts £2bn fund
>
> · Exclusive Scottish Equitable acts after slump
> · Fears that other funds are at risk
>
> This article appeared in the Guardian on Friday January 18 2008 on p1
> of the Top stories section. It was last updated at 23:52 on January 17
> 2008.
>
> One of Britain's biggest property funds was forced to shut its doors
> to withdrawals yesterday after the slump in commercial prices
> triggered panic selling by small investors.
>
> The move prompted fears of a Northern Rock-style run on billions of
> pounds invested in once high-flying funds which many savers have seen
> as a safe haven for their pensions. ...
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  Re: The book the Usenet Commies (and Ron Paul-tards) don't want you to read....         


Author: lorad474
Date: Jan 17, 2008 22:33

On Jan 16, 3:02 pm, Liberalism is a Mental Disorder
gmail.com> wrote:
> ....yea that's right.  The fascist left-wingers on Usenet want to
> silence and discredit this book, because it exposes them for who they
> truly are.  Usenet and the liberal bloggers are about to be pummeled
> with more than just the common sense that they distort, they are about
> to be hammered with the history of the left.

So...
Who are you gonna vote for? Castro?
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  Re: McCain, Huckabee Worst GOP Canadidates Touted By Liberal/Media And Democrats         


Author: AnAmericanCitizen
Date: Jan 17, 2008 22:26

Not too difficult to figure out. She's right about Mitt being the best qualified GOP
candidate so, of course, the media will come out against him. As for Huckabee being
the worst GOP candidate, no surprise the media is touting him....they want the worst
to be the nominee....AAC

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:51:31 -0500, "Amos Smithers" genesee.com> wrote:
>This is the opinion of conservative Republican Ann Coulter as she explains
>in the following article. By the same token, writes Ann, the mainstream
>media and Democrats attempt to demean and subtly vilify at ever turn, Mitt
>Romney, the best qualified GOP candidate who would be hardest to beat in the
>coming national presidential race.
>
>http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59734
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  Re: #Hoisting Hillary on her PC Petard         


Author: bvallely
Date: Jan 17, 2008 22:18

> This from the conservatives who supported segregation,>
.
Actually, it was the Democrats who were the segregationists - which is
why Martin Luther King was a Republican. Bull Connor, George Wallace,
Lester Maddox, the Dixiecrats - all Democrats. Woodrow Wilson,
beloved Democrat President, had multi screenings of pro KKK film "The
Birth of A Nation" in the White House - and publicly proclaimed it the
finest film ever made: "Like writing history with lightening" (great
line, BTW). Democrat FDR rounded up every Japanese American and
shipped them to work camps during WWII - for their "own good", of
course.

Which brings us up to racism today. A while back, when challenged to
present examples of modern Republican racism, you offered a fourteen
year old newspaper article which discussed the Republicans support...
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  Ping Mike Flannigan: I am not he         


Author: DeserTBoB
Date: Jan 17, 2008 21:54

Do you have any idea how to check IPs and article numbers? If you
did, you'd know that your "phantom" is not me at all. I see the phony
now, apologize for banging on you directly, but you need to be sure
before you start shooting your mouth off.

I'm pretty sure (as it is in 90%% of "hijacking" cases) that the
hijacker is a regular in here who's gotten either another NNTP account
or is/was using an anonymizer. He's also quite mentally ill and a
"serial poster," common with whack jobs on the right.

"Mentally ill?" On Usenet? Perish the thought!
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  Obama Already Trying To Play For The Right-Wing Vote         


Author: Winston Smith, American Patriot
Date: Jan 17, 2008 21:32

Bush will tell you that his policies, economic and otherwise, are an
expression of his unending admiration and attempt to emulate Reagan.

And he's not kidding: it is utterly beyond belief that there are millions
of Americans who want to rank Reagan as among the great presidents of
history, alongside the likes of FDR, Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson,
Madison, and so on. Reagan, at best, will rank as an average president,
and some will argue that he is below average when the final judgment is
entered that "supply-side/trickle-upon economics" is an unmitigated
disaster, and his failures outweigh his one-and-a-half achievements (the
INF treaty and his personal rapport with Gorbachev in getting the latter
to think about reforming the Soviet state).

Is Reagan head-and-shoulders above the criminal now in the White House?
Without question! But that's much like saying that gonorrhea is better
than a positive HIV status.

==================================

Edwards Attacks Obama for View of Reagan

By JULIE BOSMAN
Published: January 18, 2008
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  A moderate repub in action -- hanks brother?         


Author: topset72
Date: Jan 17, 2008 21:22

In one of six letters sent to Stewart, Castagana included a lewd photo
of dead tsunami victim captioned, "Fuck your wife."

"Compulsive" Republican's Head Examined

Psych review for felon who mailed threats to Olbermann, Stewart

JANUARY 15--The California man (and self-described "compulsive"
Republican voter) who sent threatening letters containing a white
powder to a variety of public figures he thought were too liberal is
being examined by a court-appointed psychiatrist in advance of his
sentencing on 14 felony counts.

Chad Castagana, 40, was convicted last year of mailing the letters
during a two-month period in late-2006. The missives, sent from
Woodland Hills, contained either baking soda, laundry detergent, or
Ajax, substances that apparently were meant to be mistaken for anthrax
or another deadly agent.

As seen in the government trial exhibits on the following pages,
Castagana sent threats to, among others, Keith Olbermann, Jon Stewart,
media mogul Sumner Redstone, and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
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  #Amid troubling reports on election integrity, Dem introduces paper-ballot legislation         


Author: 3921 Dead
Date: Jan 17, 2008 20:37

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Are_2008_elections_headed_for_another_0117.html

Amid troubling reports on election integrity, Dem introduces
paper-ballot legislation
Diane Sweet
Published: Thursday January 17, 2008

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As new reports are emerging about vote-counting problems and potential
conflicts of interest regarding handling of ballots, a Democratic
congressman has introduced new legislation that would make it easier
for states to audit their election results.

Rep. Rush Holt's bill was introduced the same day that Maryland voters
learned the security of their electronic voting machines would be
entrusted to a high-profile Republican operative, and as activists
were documenting irregularities in last week's New Hampshire primary.

Brad Friedman, who has been following the New Hampshire primary vote
recount reports his latest findings of problems being disovered with
the Diebold machines:
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  Re: The book the Usenet Commies (and Ron Paul-tards) don't want you to read....         


Author: Liberalism is a Mental Disorder
Date: Jan 17, 2008 20:33

On Jan 16, 9:07 pm, Spartakus my-deja.com> wrote:
> a Mental Disorder gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ....yea that's right. The fascist left-wingers on Usenet want to
>> silence and discredit this book, because it exposes them for who they
>> truly are. Usenet and the liberal bloggers are about to be pummeled
>> with more than just the common sense that they distort, they are about
>> to be hammered with the history of the left.
>
>> The book is 'Liberal Fascism'.
>
> "The white male is the Jew of liberal fascism." -- Jonah Goldberg,
> "Liberal Fascism".
>
> Any book that makes such a claim does not deserve a serious response.
> What's more, his whole thesis is contradicted by the fact that there
> are real, honest-to-goodness fascist movements right here in the
> U.S.A. that are aligned with the Right *against* the Left.
>
> If anyone is going to be "hammered" over this book, it will be ...
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