http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/ Posts for alt.fan.heinlein Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:41:56 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/ http://www.nnseek.com/img/64.png 64 64 NNSeek http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/heinlein_herman_kahn_and_the_hudson_institute_175181363t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/heinlein_herman_kahn_and_the_hudson_institute_175181363t.html spent coaching us at Boeing. I later worked with him on other matters. As a
result of my recommendations Robert Heinlein spent a couple of weeks at the
Hudson Institute, and became friends with Kahn."

http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/2008/Q3/view536.html#Thursday

Google seems to be surprisingly unforthcoming on the subject. Can the RPOE
enlighten us?

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http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/6222.html

I submit that Sarah Palin is the most Heinleinian candidate for Vice-
President of the United States in this country’s history (indeed,
possibly the only one other than Truman in 1944). The great question,
answerable only by future events, is whether electing someone for
being intriguing, even deeply intriguing, will in fact result in
effective executive leadership.


To make it suitable for discussion, the question is : Is she really a
Heinlein woman or not? :)

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]]> Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:01:17 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/researchers_showcase_automated_bus_174644531t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/researchers_showcase_automated_bus_174644531t.html hotmail.com> wrote:
> Follow-up to a previous discussion
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> <http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2008/09/05_autobus.shtml>
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> Pete LaGrange
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I remember when I was with one of the Major Auto Manufacturers and our
plant used guided robots for pickup and delivery of parts from the
assembly line. The robots followed a chemical track bonded to the
floor. Somebody discovered that it was possible to use strips of
masking tape to divert the robot from its path and strand it in the
middle of nowhere.

I can foresee similar hacks with the magnetic bus guidance. All it
would take would be some kids with time on their hands, some magnets,
and a low threshold of amusement.

Bill Sullivan

"Politics would be a helluva good business if it weren't for the
goddamned people." - Richard M. Nixon

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]]> Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:50:58 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/researchers_showcase_automated_bus_174516531t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/researchers_showcase_automated_bus_174516531t.html hotmail.com> wrote:
> Follow-up to a previous discussion
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> <http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2008/09/05_autobus.shtml>
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That's pretty cool. I don't think the technical problems will be the
biggest hurdles though.

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]]> Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:07:58 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/line_from_pm_something_like_i_guess_she_just_likes_174093107t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/line_from_pm_something_like_i_guess_she_just_likes_174093107t.html Masters", right?) and "Sam" said something like "I guess she just likes
guns"?

Came to mind when I saw today's SinFest. -Eric

P.S. Also coming to mind is my daughter-in-law, who is, I'm told, quite
a shot with an AK-47. -ESH

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2928

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]]> Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:22:42 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/line_from_pm_something_like_i_guess_she_just_likes_174092851t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/line_from_pm_something_like_i_guess_she_just_likes_174092851t.html Masters", right?) and "Sam" said something like "I guess she just likes
guns"?

Came to mind when I saw today's SinFest. -Eric

P.S. Also coming to mind is my daughter-in-law, who is, I'm told, quite
a shot with an AK-47. -ESH

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2928

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LNC

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]]> Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:23:18 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/starman_jones_science_172516403t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.fan.heinlein/starman_jones_science_172516403t.html 6 or 7th time I have read it since I did first in 1954
There is a 'computer' in the control room, it is there, but almost un-
described. Heinlein would have been aware of the vacuum tube monsters
that existed in 1952 and 1953 , however this one is small enough to
fit into the 'worry room'. On the other hand it is hard to tell
exactly what it does! Astrogation in Starman Jones is a human-machine
'symbiosis' quite cleverly worked out by Heinlein, though some of the
Astrogator's work seems more theoretical physics than engineering
physics, methinks it would be the other way around. O well Heinlein
does the science fiction 'gold standard' of showing us how star travel
is done and not giving us techno-bable about what is going on. (The
'field effect' acceleration generators are about the only 'poetic
license' technology that Heinlein lets stick out). There is the
interjection of real observational instrumentation ... stellar
spectra, Doppler shifts and radar (for planetary approach) enough to
make things sound tenable. I would think if someone made a film of
this story all the 'super science' Heinlein uses could be easily
doctored to make it sound less anachronistic.

Someone had said that Heinlein had goofed on his special relativity, I
didn't see it, the star ship could do , it seems, better than 30 g's
to get up to near the speed of light to do a 'transition'.
If the periods of this were short enough one might not have a big
problem with time contraction.
Heinlein also seems to have a sort of description of the aberration of
star light during relativistic flight.

The section of the novel where Max explains 'anomalies' to Ellie and
the 'worry hole' expositions are quite extraordinary, its not that
'star gate' concepts had been rare in prose science fiction by 1953 ,
Heinlein's extrapolation of multiply connected topology (Homotopy was
a known mathematical concept in 1953) for star flight it is the height
of sophistication. Though the Einstein-Rosen 'bridge', (Wormhole), had
been known since the 1930's it's mysterious diffusion into SF is quite
extraordinary. It is hard to know if Heinlein had first hand knowledge
of it, though knowing the people he knew it is not a surprise. One
notes there is indeed a computer in the star ship's control room,
never fully described, but the man-machine interface shades more
towards the 'man'. Here we get a superb example of modern SF's clever
verisimilitude that is realized in the modern physics of General
Relativity of the 1960's and 1970's and even to the present ideas
about Interstellar Travel. Even though the technological realization
of the process described is some what problematic, the clever use of
physics, the star ship Asgard is a 'field effect' ship (common idea in
SF by the 1950)but used by Heinlein to great effect. The Asgard can
apparently do nearly 30 gravities while maintaining a 1 g environment
inside, it never exceeds the speed of light, though one needs to be
near it to cross a 'congruency'. When the Asgard makes a bad
transition Heinlein even discusses the idea of Multiverse, this is
amazing, Heinlein must have been extrapolating from Parallel universe
theory because the Many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics
would not be presented for 4 more years! So the basic mathematics and
physics existed in 1953 for Heinlein to make his extrapolations and is
even better defined these days in some Faster-than-light ideas, its
the technology that is unknown and may lay so or may be in the far far
distant future

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