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Author: Dana Carpender
Date: Aug 6, 2008 16:44

I've never even considered getting granite countertops, since they're
hideously expensive, and are bound to look outdated in twenty years,
just like every other high-fashion home furnishing. Now I'm reading
that they can emit radon:
http://www.sixwise.com/Newsletters/2008/August/6/Is-There-Radon-in-Your-Granite-Countertop...

Anyone know the Straight Dope on this?

Dana
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Author: danny burstein
Date: Aug 6, 2008 17:17

In comcast.com> Dana Carpender kivanospam.net> writes:
>I've never even considered getting granite countertops, since they're
>hideously expensive, and are bound to look outdated in twenty years,
>just like every other high-fashion home furnishing. Now I'm reading
>that they can emit radon:
>http://www.sixwise.com/Newsletters/2008/August/6/Is-There-Radon-in-Your-Granite-Countertop...
>Anyone know the Straight Dope on this?

Radon, in high concetrations (as in uranium miners
in imprpoerly vented shafts) is bad, bad.

But the worrywarts and their enablers have taken
the high dose figures and (very arguably...) used
them to claim that lower, intermittent doses, are
percentage wise just as bed.

To make up figures for illustration:

mine workers getting 50,000 millirem/yr
get 10 extra cancers per hundred workers.

worrywarts then say that 10,000 millirem/yr
gets you an extra cancer per hundred, and that
1,000 millirem gets you one per thousand.
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Author: Lars Eighner
Date: Aug 6, 2008 17:18

In our last episode,
comcast.com>,
the lovely and talented Dana Carpender
broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
> I've never even considered getting granite countertops, since they're
> hideously expensive, and are bound to look outdated in twenty years,
> just like every other high-fashion home furnishing. Now I'm reading
> that they can emit radon:
> http://www.sixwise.com/Newsletters/2008/August/6/Is-There-Radon-in-Your-Granite-Countertop...
> Anyone know the Straight Dope on this?

The straight dope is that they do emit radon, as does just about all natural
stone. The amount, of course, is very small, and in some natural stone
(such as marble it is itsy-tinsy, itty-bitty). The...
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Author: Neal Eckhardt
Date: Aug 6, 2008 17:24

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:44:08 -0400, Dana Carpender
kivanospam.net> wrote:
>I've never even considered getting granite countertops, since they're
>hideously expensive, and are bound to look outdated in twenty years,
>just like every other high-fashion home furnishing. Now I'm reading
>that they can emit radon:
>http://www.sixwise.com/Newsletters/2008/August/6/Is-There-Radon-in-Your-Granite-Countertop...
>
>Anyone know the Straight Dope on this?
>
>Dana

Isn't Radon kinda a non-issue in well ventilated areas. I would
consider a kitchen a well ventilated area.

It's a heavy gas, so it would tend to stay low. The main problem is
houses with basements where there is little or no airflow to remove
the gas.

--
Neal
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Author: Mikko Peltoniemi
Date: Aug 6, 2008 17:24

Dana Carpender wrote:
> Anyone know the Straight Dope on this?

It's been known for a while, that depending on the soil, you can
get varying amounts of radon from the decaying of radium in it.

But I have a hard time believe a slab of stone in the kitchen
would amount to substantial exposure. Measurable, sure, but
still probably far less than you'd get from regular day-to-day
exposure.

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Author: Mikko Peltoniemi
Date: Aug 6, 2008 17:26

Lars Eighner wrote:
> And you know what that something is? It's *CHEMICALS*. I trust we all
> know how dangerous chemicals can be.

Do they use phthalates in countertops? I know they're used in
flooring...

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Author: Les Albert
Date: Aug 6, 2008 17:22

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:44:08 -0400, Dana Carpender
kivanospam.net> wrote:
>I've never even considered getting granite countertops, since they're
>hideously expensive, and are bound to look outdated in twenty years,
>just like every other high-fashion home furnishing. Now I'm reading
>that they can emit radon:
>http://www.sixwise.com/Newsletters/2008/August/6/Is-There-Radon-in-Your-Granite-Countertop...
>Anyone know the Straight Dope on this?

It's true, but the amount of radon doesn't seem to pose a threat. See
the recent article at http://tinyurl.com/6anaun

The key paragraphs say:

"The Marble Institute of America has said such claims are "ludicrous"
because although granite is known to contain uranium and other
radioactive materials like thorium and potassium, the amounts in
countertops are not enough to pose a health threat.
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Author: Greg Goss
Date: Aug 6, 2008 17:40

Dana Carpender kivanospam.net> wrote:
>I've never even considered getting granite countertops, since they're
>hideously expensive, and are bound to look outdated in twenty years,
>just like every other high-fashion home furnishing. Now I'm reading
>that they can emit radon:
>http://www.sixwise.com/Newsletters/2008/August/6/Is-There-Radon-in-Your-Granite-Countertop...
>
>Anyone know the Straight Dope on this?

Granite emits radon. This is a vague problem in unventilated
basements in areas with granite since the heavy gas can gather. Very
few kitchens are unventilated (I have a gas stove emitting combustion
products into mine, but there's a powered vent just above the stove.)

If you cut onions, how long does it take for the smell to dissipate.
It would take a comparable amount of time for radon to dissipate.
There's enough airflow through a kitchen for it to not be a problem.

--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
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Author: Dana Carpender
Date: Aug 6, 2008 17:47

Lars Eighner wrote:
> In our last episode,
> comcast.com>,
> the lovely and talented Dana Carpender
> broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>
>> I've never even considered getting granite countertops, since they're
>> hideously expensive, and are bound to look outdated in twenty years,
>> just like every other high-fashion home furnishing. Now I'm reading
>> that they can emit radon:
>> http://www.sixwise.com/Newsletters/2008/August/6/Is-There-Radon-in-Your-Granite-Countertop...
>
>> Anyone know the Straight Dope on this?
>
> The straight dope is that they do emit radon, as does just about all natural
> stone. The amount, of course, is very small, and in some natural stone
> (such as marble it is itsy-tinsy, itty-bitty). The real concern about radon
> in homes is in homes built on or near bedrock which is highly radon
> emitting. That rock and similar radon-emitting rock may be several miles
> thick and the contact between the house and it may be the whole surface area ...
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Author: Greg Goss
Date: Aug 6, 2008 17:47

danny burstein panix.com> wrote:
>"... His Geiger counter indicated that the
>granite was emitting radiation at levels 10 times
>higher than those he had measured elsewhere
>in the house.."
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/garden/24granite.html?incamp=article_popular_2

A friend was telling a story from his early days when he was working
as a security guard. One day when checking the "These cabinets must
be locked -- check 'em" storage, he discovered that the company had an
highly sensitive "point and shoot" "geiger" counter. He told me what
it was intended for in the company's business, but I forget. For his
next rounds, he carried the unit around, pointing it an anything he
could think of. Eventually he got back to his desk and discovered an
enormous reading. His desk, in a corner of the entry hall was built
against a ten foot high by thirty foot wide slab of granite with the
company's name and logo carved into it.
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