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Author: Nick SpaldingNick Spalding Date: May 12, 2008 08:09
> Why does every mention of Myanmar on radio/TV have to add "formerly
> Burma" to the text. Does anyone say, "formerly British Honduras" or
> "formerly Ceylon" or "formerly Hot Springs, New Mexico"? Does the
> stewardess say, "Welcome to New York (formerly New Amsterdam) Kennedy
> airport, formerly, Idlewild"?
>
> Anyone that, by now, doesn't know Myanmar's former name probably
> doesn't care.
The papers I read and news broadcasts I see and hear over in Rightpondia
use Burma, no mention of Myanmar.
--
Nick Spalding
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Author: xhosterxhoster Date: May 12, 2008 08:24
> Greg Goss gossg.org> wrote:>> Veronique gmail.com> wrote:>>> The biggest reason for opposition is Myanmar was imposed without
>>> referendum by the current military junta (the same junta which
>>> proved fairly indifferent to the effects of the recent cyclone on
>>> its population, and which is, right at the moment, restricting UN
>>> shipments of aid to those affected.)
>> A radio report I heard today claimed that the lack of timely arrival
>> of emergency water and other supplies might push the death toll from
>> an expected 80K to well over a million. Apparently the diarrheal
>> plagues have started, and emergency water and water treatment
>> chemicals are still being sidetracked by the government.
>
> The government...
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Author: Greg GossGreg Goss Date: May 12, 2008 08:33
"Richard R. Hershberger" acme.com> wrote:
>As for those Latin American places they had established names before
>any Anglophones thought about the question, and Spanish names work
>reasonably well with English phonetics, so they just went with more-or-
>less Spanish. Compare this with China or Japan, where there were
>established local names but the phonetics did not mess comfortably
>with English, so the result was a seriously butchered version of the
>local name.
Then they rebutchered all the names again a couple of times, trying to
get closer to English speaker's pronunciation. Thus we have Peiping*,
Peking, and Beijing. So what *IS* that middle consonant?
"Cantonese" is the language spoken by the residents of "Guangdong"
Mao Tse Tung became Mao Zedong. I have no idea how Kung Fu Tsu has
been re-rendered. (quick wiki: Kong Fuzi)
A restaurant near where a friend of mine lived was called Chung Qing.
I realized much later that this was named after the city I think of as
Chunking.
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Author: Glenn DowdyGlenn Dowdy Date: May 12, 2008 09:55
> In our last episode, , the lovely and
> talented Mary broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>
>> Don K wrote:
>>>> Why does every mention of Myanmar on radio/TV have to add "formerly
>>>> Burma" to the text. Does anyone say, "formerly British Honduras" or
>>>> "formerly Ceylon" or "formerly Hot Springs, New Mexico"? Does the
>>>> stewardess say, "Welcome to New York (formerly New Amsterdam) Kennedy
>>>> airport, formerly, Idlewild"?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone that, by now, doesn't know Myanmar's former name probably
>>>> doesn't care.
>>>
>>> If they hadn't told me Myanmar was formerly Burma, I'd have thought it
>>> was a sandwich spread.
>>> ...
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Author: Glenn DowdyGlenn Dowdy Date: May 12, 2008 10:01
> "ZBicyclist" excite.com> wrote:
>>>There's little to say or do. It's unclear that donating to anybody
>>or writing to anybody will have any effect.
>
> There was an interview between a Canadian radio journalist and someone
> in the US military on what international law would say about "bombing"
> pallets of food into a country with an unwilling government. The US
> military guy had obviously considered the idea and it sounds like he
> had very reluctantly decided not to do it. (or at least that someone
> had decided not to do it. It wasn't clear whether he was in the
> decision making chain.)
This would require Presidential approval.
Glenn D.
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Author: karomiowkaromiow Date: May 12, 2008 10:08
On May 11, 6:57Â pm, Mary aol.com> wrote:> Don K wrote:
>>> Why does every mention of Myanmar on radio/TV have to add "formerly
>>> Burma" to the text. Â Does anyone say, "formerly British Honduras" or
>>> "formerly Ceylon" or "formerly Hot Springs, New Mexico"? Â Does the
>>> stewardess say, "Welcome to New York (formerly New Amsterdam) Kennedy
>>> airport, formerly, Idlewild"?
>
>>> Anyone that, by now, doesn't know Myanmar's former name probably
>>> doesn't care.
>
>> If they hadn't told me Myanmar was formerly Burma, I'd have thought it
>> was a sandwich spread.
>
>> That sort of thing is necessary whenever some yoyo seizes control of a country
>> and changes the name without telling anyone.
>
>> Don ...
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Author: QueBarbaraQueBarbara Date: May 12, 2008 10:42
On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:55:57 -0600, "Glenn Dowdy"
hp.spam.com> wrote:
>> In our last episode, , the lovely and
>> talented Mary broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>>
>>
>>> Was the country known as Burma to the inhabitants themselves prior to
>>> British rule?
>>
>> It's nobody's business but the Turks.
>>
>Nice.
>
>Glenn D.
>
Yeah, I really like that song.
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Date: May 12, 2008 11:06
>> There was an interview between a Canadian radio journalist and
>> someone in the US military on what international law would say
>> about "bombing" pallets of food into a country with an unwilling
>> government. The US military guy had obviously considered the
>> idea and it sounds like he had very reluctantly decided not to do
>> it. (or at least that someone had decided not to do it. It
>> wasn't clear whether he was in the decision making chain.)
>
> The US has done it before, most recently in Bosnia.
>
> Hell, at this point, I say land the Marines with food and water.
> Who is going to stop us? The Mynamar military is probably
> dead/dying right now.
>
>
Unfortunately our armed forces are tied up in a rilly important
operation that is absolutely critical to, um....
:::puts head in hands and sobs:::
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Author: N Jill MarshN Jill Marsh Date: May 12, 2008 13:53
On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:09:36 +0100, Nick Spalding
wrote:
>The papers I read and news broadcasts I see and hear over in Rightpondia
>use Burma, no mention of Myanmar.
There was a little fad here in the 1990s to use "Myanmar" exclusively.
I think the current usage shows something of a disenchantment with the
stupid evil pol-pot-like fuckers who are running the country.
nj"karen & chin friends, why do you ask?"m
--
Welcome, stranger, to the humble neighbourhoods.
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Author: Mark BraderMark Brader Date: May 12, 2008 14:14
>>> Idlewild was only a nickname, after its location in the city.
> I find statements like this one, from the New York City Department of
> Parks & Recreation, that say it was once named Idlewild.
>
> "Construction on Idlewild International Airport (presently John F. Kennedy
> International Airport) began in 1942. ... Idlewild International Airport
> was renamed John F. Kennedy International Airport on December 24, 1963..."
>
> http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_your_park/historical_signs/hs_historical_sign.php...--
Mark Brader, Toronto "It is almost always wrong to strive for
msb@ vex.net gilt by association." --Martin Ambuhl
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