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Author: Bernie DwyerBernie Dwyer Date: Aug 31, 2007 09:23
Apparently westerns, too.
Anyone else get the feeling that he's just trying to provoke some
debate?
Or just being a dickhead.
I mean, this is a guy who's considering a "Monopoly" movie. And a
"Gladiator" sequel.
At least Deckard and Rachel were left *alive* at the end of BR - you
could kind of believe there's more of their story to be told. But a
"Gladiator" sequel? Please.
Anyway, films don't *have* to be about exploring the human condition and
the meaning of life. It's possible to make something entertaining
(including westerns and SF - look at "Silverado" and "Serenity") without
needing to say something deep and meaningful.
Maybe he's getting cranky in his old age. Maybe no-one's offered him a
good script lately AND the money to film it.
--
Bernie Dwyer
There are no 'z' in my address
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Author: wamwam Date: Sep 1, 2007 21:00
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie Dwyer" yahooz.comz.auz>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.blade-runner
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:23 AM
Subject: Ridley Scott's comments on SF as a genre
> Apparently westerns, too.
>
> Anyone else get the feeling that he's just trying to provoke some
> debate?
>
> Or just being a dickhead.
>
I think it's just him. There's those that want to make films...
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Author: Lukas MarimanLukas Mariman Date: Sep 3, 2007 00:56
wam wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernie Dwyer" yahooz.comz.auz>
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.blade-runner
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:23 AM
> Subject: Ridley Scott's comments on SF as a genre
>
>>> Apparently westerns, too.
>>
>> Anyone else get the feeling that he's just trying to provoke some
>> debate?
>>
>> Or just being a dickhead.
>>
> I think it's just him. There's those that want to make films as an
> "Artistic Statement" and think genre is something sterile that
> nothing can be done with so if they should happen to make a genre
> movie it's not really genre it's ... Others will make such things as
> entertainment / money makers / etc and do something else if they want ...
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Author: marcmarc Date: Sep 3, 2007 21:14
On 2 Sep, 23:56, "Lukas Mariman" wrote:
> wam wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bernie Dwyer" yahooz.comz.auz>
>> Newsgroups: alt.fan.blade-runner
>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:23 AM
>> Subject: Ridley Scott's comments on SF as a genre>
>>> Apparently westerns, too.
>
>>> Anyone else get the feeling that he's just trying to provoke some
>>> debate?
>
>>> Or just being a dickhead.
>
>> I think it's just him. There's those that want to make films as an
>> "Artistic Statement" and think genre is something sterile that
>> nothing can be done with so if they should happen to make a genre
>> movie it's not really genre it's ... Others will make such things as
>> entertainment / money makers / etc and do something else if they want ...
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Author: Bran Mak MuffinBran Mak Muffin Date: Sep 4, 2007 02:39
In news:46D7C204.E520A16E@ yahooz.comz.auz, on Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:23:48
GMT, Bernie Dwyer yahooz.comz.auz> wrote:
> Apparently westerns, too.
> At least Deckard and Rachel were left *alive* at the end of BR - you
> could kind of believe there's more of their story to be told. But a
> "Gladiator" sequel? Please.
With Maximus as a main character? Yes, that sounds a bit odd. Maybe it's a
prequel. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Doesn't sound much better.
> Anyway, films don't *have* to be about exploring the human condition and
> the meaning of life.
But it makes for a better movie if they're more than just CGI and loud
sound. Some friends suggested "300" and "Memento" to me. "300" just didn't
quite make it to "nearly as good as 'Return of the Jedi'" status.
"Memento," OTOH, was an excellent movie. I guess it all depends on your
taste. What movie did you like better, "Barton Fink" or "The Matrix?" Both
are "mess with your head" movies, kind of like BR, but one is a "small"
movie and one is a CGI fest.
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Author: Bernie DwyerBernie Dwyer Date: Sep 4, 2007 05:50
Bran Mak Muffin wrote:
>
> In news:46D7C204.E520A16E@ yahooz.comz.auz, on Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:23:48
> GMT, Bernie Dwyer yahooz.comz.auz> wrote:
> >> Apparently westerns, too.
>
>
>
>> At least Deckard and Rachel were left *alive* at the end of BR - you
>> could kind of believe there's more of their story to be told. But a
>> "Gladiator" sequel? Please.
>
> With Maximus as a main character? Yes, that sounds a bit odd. Maybe it's a
> prequel. Yeah, that's the ticket.
>
> Doesn't sound much better.
>
>> Anyway, films don't *have* to be about exploring the human condition and
>> the meaning of life. ...
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Author: Bran Mak MuffinBran Mak Muffin Date: Sep 4, 2007 07:41
In news:46DCD5F0.A8FDAF47@ yahooz.comz.auz, on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:50:08
GMT, Bernie Dwyer yahooz.comz.auz> wrote:
> Anyway, I found Silverado entertaining.
> - it was
> just entertaining. Of course, your tastes won't be the same as mine.
> What westerns have entertained you?
"The Searchers" is a good western. Probably my favorite John Wayne western.
Of course with old westerns, one has to look past the Indian stereotyping.
More modernly, "The Outlaw Josey Wales" is good. And you can't go wrong
with "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly," the best Eastwood spaghetti western
by far, in fact I'd say it's my favorite Eastwood western. Heck, I'd have
to say it's my favorite western. Hardly deep "meaning of life" stuff.
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Author: Lukas MarimanLukas Mariman Date: Sep 4, 2007 08:48
Bran Mak Muffin wrote:
> In news:46DCD5F0.A8FDAF47@ yahooz.comz.auz, on Tue, 04 Sep 2007
> 03:50:08 GMT, Bernie Dwyer yahooz.comz.auz> wrote:
>
>
>>> Anyway, I found Silverado entertaining.
>
>
>
>> - it was
>> just entertaining. Of course, your tastes won't be the same as mine.
>> What westerns have entertained you?
>
> "The Searchers" is a good western. Probably my favorite John Wayne
> western. Of course with old westerns, one has to look past the Indian
> stereotyping. More modernly, "The Outlaw Josey Wales" is good. And
> you can't go wrong with "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly," the best
> Eastwood spaghetti western by far, in fact I'd say it's my favorite
> Eastwood western. Heck, I'd have to say it's my favorite western. ...
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Author: Bernie DwyerBernie Dwyer Date: Sep 5, 2007 04:24
Bran Mak Muffin wrote:
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> "The Searchers" is a good western. Probably my favorite John Wayne western.
> Of course with old westerns, one has to look past the Indian stereotyping.
> More modernly, "The Outlaw Josey Wales" is good. And you can't go wrong
> with "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly," the best Eastwood spaghetti western
> by far, in fact I'd say it's my favorite Eastwood western. Heck, I'd have
> to say it's my favorite western. Hardly deep "meaning of life" stuff.
It seems that our tastes are more similar than I'd thought. D'you like
"Pale Rider", too?
And, to bring it back to BR, how about "Unforgiven"?
--
Bernie Dwyer
There are no 'z' in my address
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Author: Bran Mak MuffinBran Mak Muffin Date: Sep 5, 2007 05:41
In news:46DE1365.916EA2A6@ yahooz.comz.auz, on Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:24:37
GMT, Bernie Dwyer yahooz.comz.auz> wrote:
> It seems that our tastes are more similar than I'd thought.
What, did you think I was some snooty highbrow who only liked "deep"
movies? What I don't like are movies that are all flash, no substance, like
"300," IMO, or the "Lord of the Rings" movies. For the most part, I like
movies that make me think, which is one thing BR does in spades.
> D'you like "Pale Rider", too?
It's not my favorite Eastwood, but it's a good movie.
> And, to bring it back to BR, how about "Unforgiven"?
That's good, too. It's hard to go wrign with Clint Eastwood.
How is "Unforgiven" BR-like?
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