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Group: alt.evolution · Group Profile
Author: DanielSan
Date: Feb 15, 2008 05:13

Mark Earnest said the following on 2/14/2008 6:38 PM:
> "DanielSan" gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2JudnWRgu7yhcynanZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Mark Earnest said the following on 2/14/2008 4:41 PM:
>>> "DanielSan" gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:zv6dnZPM_Zp2VS7anZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Mark Earnest said the following on 2/13/2008 7:58 PM:
>>>>> "DanielSan" gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:V7mdnVXfCclQKC7anZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Mark Earnest said the following on 2/13/2008 7:12 PM:
>>>>>>> "DanielSan" gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:5MidncMuio8oMi7anZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> Mark Earnest said the following on 2/13/2008 2:19 PM:
>>>>>>>>> "DanielSan" gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:t_OdnbEfiOwnUi_anZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Mark Earnest said the following on 2/12/2008 9:36 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>> "DanielSan" gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:hamdnfOKnMBD5i_anZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Earnest said the following on 2/12/2008 9:08 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Enkidu" trashmail.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Xns9A42D0D52C10F255229@130.133.1.4...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mark Earnest" yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:13r4rceq6900pf6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @corp.supernews.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Enkidu" trashmail.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Xns9A42CA050DC2D255229@130.133.1.4...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mark Earnest" yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:13r4puher668q74
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @corp.supernews.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "DanielSan" wrote....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first of the new species aka 'Adam' lived, 960
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prove it.*************************
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no way for you to know unless you understand the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of proof there really is: what God says to be true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'll put you down for "can't."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I'll put you down for ignorant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly what am I "ignorant" of?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facts, in their most basic format.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one knows anything at all unless God tells it to them.
>>>>>>>>>>>> "God" has never told me a single thing because I do not believe
>>>>>>>>>>>> this entity exists.
>>>>>>>>>>> You don't have to believe he exists in order to hear him.
>>>>>>>>>>> Even insects hear him.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>>>>>> *****The proof is in the pudding.
>>>>>>>> No, that's milk and chocolate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's "he" sound like?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *****like the sound of many waters.
>>>>>>>> You might want to call a plumber.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you know what you're hearing
>>>>>>>>>> is "God"?
>>>>>>>>> *****It is the amazing awareness that you suddenly have the
>>>>>>>>> peaceful
>>>>>>>>> assurance of something, as if you were never certain of anything
>>>>>>>>> else before.
>>>>>>>> I had something like that once. It's the realization that I was an
>>>>>>>> atheist.
>>>>>>> The realization that one day all this will end, and you will never
>>>>>>> exist again.
>>>>>> Just like before you were born?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pretty depression a view of reality, if you ask me.
>>>>>> Not really. Not to me. It's actually very exciting. There's all
>>>>>> this fun stuff I can do during the time I'm alive and it's a limited
>>>>>> time offer. It doesn't allow me to sit around and do nothing.
>>>>> But if it all ends, it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.
>>>>> Because when you die, none, nada, zilch.
>>>> Not to the people that you touch throughout your life and the people
>>>> they touch.
>>>>
>>>>>> An everlasting existence, even in "paradise" would be horrifying for
>>>>>> me.
>>>>> What if that paradise was on Earth, in the real world, in the future?
>>>> Just as bad. An eternal existence, period, is horrifying to the point
>>>> of me being sick to my stomach.
>>> What if you had fun for all eternity, right here on Earth?
>>> Maybe you could go hunting dragons and fighting them for treasure
>>> and magic items.
>> After 150 million years, I think I'd be done doing everything that could
>> ever be done, then I'll be bored for trillions of years.
>>
>> No, y'see, the limits and deadline placed upon me by my mortality is what
>> makes it fun. If I was forverlasting, I'd go insane. It is the
>> quintessence of hell to never die.
>>
>> Riding on a rollercoaster: Super fun
>> Riding on a rollercoaster for 36 hours without stopping: Rote (if
>> nauseating)
>>
>> No, no matter what you say, an everlasting existence is absolutely
>> horrifying to me.
>
> That is precisely why you need an infinite being in your life: to create an
> enjoyable forever, even if it is the series of those deadlines you so enjoy.

You're still not getting it. The infinite is horrifying. Here. Let me
say it slowly:

I.
Do.
Not.
Want.
It.

Does that help?

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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
*
--Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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