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  Re: Does methane venting threaten a whole atmosphere flash over?         


Author: jwarner1
Date: May 14, 2010 05:41

DESMODUS wrote:
> A report in SCIENCE (5th march 2010) expresses concern over the
> venting of large quantities of Methane from the Siberian arctic shelf.
> Methane concs have risen from 650 ppm at the end of the ice age to
> over 1760ppm

ppm or ppb ?
> today and are rising fast >Methane is 20 times as strong
> a green house gas as CO2 and vast deposits exist as methane ice on
> continental shelves .There exists a definite possibility of a thermal
...
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  Re: Does methane venting threaten a whole atmosphere flash over?         


Author: chemist
Date: May 13, 2010 20:25

On May 13, 1:06 pm, DESMODUS uku.co.uk> wrote:
> A report in SCIENCE (5th march 2010) expresses concern over the
> venting of large quantities of Methane from the Siberian arctic shelf.
> Methane concs have risen from 650 ppm at the  end of the ice age to
> over 1760ppm today and are rising fast >Methane is 20 times as strong
> a green house gas as CO2 and vast deposits exist as methane ice on
> continental shelves .There exists a definite possibility of a thermal
> run away raising CH4 levels at an exponential rate ,some calcs
> indicate that levels could reach as high as 8-10%% within 100 years at
> this level a total atmospheric flash over event would be likely to
> occur as the  methane gas ignites making pretty much everything above
> the oceans look like a crispy chinese duck...
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  Re: Does methane venting threaten a whole atmosphere flash over?         


Author: Catoni
Date: May 13, 2010 18:03

On May 13, 8:06 am, DESMODUS uku.co.uk> wrote:
> A report in SCIENCE (5th march 2010) expresses concern over the
> venting of large quantities of Methane from the Siberian arctic shelf.
> Methane concs have risen from 650 ppm at the  end of the ice age to
> over 1760ppm today and are rising fast >Methane is 20 times as strong
> a green house gas as CO2 and vast deposits exist as methane ice on
> continental shelves .There exists a definite possibility of a thermal
> run away raising CH4 levels at an exponential rate ,some calcs
> indicate that levels could reach as high as 8-10%% within 100 years at
> this level a total atmospheric flash over event would be likely to
> occur as the  methane gas ignites making pretty much everything above
> the oceans look like a crispy chinese duck...
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  Re: Does methane venting threaten a whole atmosphere flash over?         


Author: bw
Date: May 13, 2010 18:01

"DESMODUS" uku.co.uk> wrote in message
news:092d08f4-cb40-4af9-963d-db8d8f2a6fea@24g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
>A report in SCIENCE (5th march 2010) expresses concern over the
> venting of large quantities of Methane from the Siberian arctic shelf.
> Methane concs have risen from 650 ppm at the end of the ice age to
> over 1760ppm today

Actual CH4 level is 1760 parts per Billion, thats 1.76 ppm.
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  Re: Does methane venting threaten a whole atmosphere flash over?         


Author: Giga2
Date: May 13, 2010 16:28

On 13 May, 13:06, DESMODUS uku.co.uk> wrote:
> A report in SCIENCE (5th march 2010) expresses concern over the
> venting of large quantities of Methane from the Siberian arctic shelf.
> Methane concs have risen from 650 ppm at the  end of the ice age to
> over 1760ppm today and are rising fast >Methane is 20 times as strong
> a green house gas as CO2 and vast deposits exist as methane ice on
> continental shelves .There exists a definite possibility of a thermal
> run away raising CH4 levels at an exponential rate ,some calcs
> indicate that levels could reach as high as 8-10%% within 100 years at
> this level a total atmospheric flash over event would be likely to
> occur as the  methane gas ignites making pretty much everything above
> the oceans look like a crispy chinese duck...
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  100 months to avert disaster         


Author: desmodus
Date: Sep 5, 2008 13:12

A group predicts that there will be a fundamental change to the Earth`s
climate patterns within 100 months if we continue to produce anthropogencic
CO2 and CH3 at the current rate . They are probably both right and wrong as
calculations show that there is enough CO2 in the atmosphere to make the
seas acid within 500 years ,already the ocean dead zones are spreading ,
metasulphonic acid emmissions from the N.Atlantic have increased by 20%% in
the last 25 years .Acid seas will kill the picroplankton that oxygenate the
atmosphere allowing sulphate reducing bacteria to reach the
surface -eventually the seas will give off H2S which will kill off oxgen
using life at a conc of< 8ppm .The last time this happened at the Permo
Triassic boundary when 96%% of macrolife went extinct . The sludge ball earth...
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  METHANE LEVELS CAUSING SERIOUS ALARM         


Author: desmodus
Date: Jun 14, 2008 14:18

Recent methane measurements from the Dome C ice core (Nat vol. 453 p383 15th
May 08) are causing serious concern as they indicate that current levels of
1770 p.p.b.v are at least twice those ever seen during the last 800,000
years (and up to 5* the lower levels ).Methane is a much stronger greenhouse
gas than CO2 and will eventually result in major climate transitions (though
the fact that this insn`t happening introduces further doubts into the
reality of climate computer 'models'!).Nonetheless messing with the
atmosphere on this scale is inevitably catastrophic for life on Earth and
can not be allowed to continue .This information is so alarming that it must
lead to coercive population control (already under discussion by several
regional agencies). Much of the methane is thought to come...
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