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Author: PalindromePalindrome Date: Feb 21, 2008 17:00
Foxtrot wrote:
> On Tue 19 Feb 2008 16:24:04, Palindrome privacy.net> wrote:
> >> Foxtrot wrote:
>>> I have never been a conspiracy theorist but I suspect that a
>>> particular group of people may try to tap my landline.
>>>
>>> I am in the UK and access to my phone wires is quite easy because
>>> I live in a block of flats. There are various oblong concrete
>>> covers for the BT and VirginMedia lines to the flats.
>>>
>>> Currently I use VirginMedia for phone service.
>>>
>>> I wonder if a tap which juts picks up the signal modulation on a
>>> line but does not interrupt it can be detected at all.
>>>
>>> Can I perform any checks?
>>> Can I ask VM to do any checks?
>>>
>>> As I am dealing with some odd folks, I would like to have the line ...
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Author: Michael A. TerrellMichael A. Terrell Date: Feb 21, 2008 17:01
Ivor Jones wrote:
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> "Michael A. Terrell" earthlink.net> wrote in
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> : : Or wait for one to turn up at a government auction.
> : : I picked up a complete 911 phone logging system and all
> : : the 10.5" reels of tape for next to nothing. I sold
> : : the recorders to a company that owned thousands of pay
> : : phones to use when there was a court ordered tap on one
> : : of their phones.
>
> Is that likely in the UK..?
>
> Ivor
Doesn't your government waste money by junking repairable equipment?
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Author: Clint SharpClint Sharp Date: Feb 21, 2008 17:55
In message <47BDA04A.695BA780@ earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell
earthlink.net> writes> Doesn't your government waste money by junking repairable equipment?
Ah, ours is way ahead of yours, we buy non working junk in the first
place to save the effort of having to try and repair it later. It's much
more efficient that way.
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Author: PalindromePalindrome Date: Feb 21, 2008 18:33
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> "Michael A. Terrell" earthlink.net> wrote in
>> message news:47BCE4EA.1D90B715@earthlink.net
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>> [snip]
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>> : : Or wait for one to turn up at a government auction.
>> : : I picked up a complete 911 phone logging system and all
>> : : the 10.5" reels of tape for next to nothing. I sold
>> : : the recorders to a company that owned thousands of pay
>> : : phones to use when there was a court ordered tap on one
>> : : of their phones.
>>
>> Is that likely in the UK..?
>>
>> Ivor>
>
> Doesn't your government waste money by junking repairable equipment? ...
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Date: Feb 21, 2008 21:16
Foxtrot wrote:
> I have never been a conspiracy theorist but I suspect that a
> particular group of people may try to tap my landline.
>
> I am in the UK and access to my phone wires is quite easy because I
> live in a block of flats. There are various oblong concrete
> covers for the BT and VirginMedia lines to the flats.
>
> Currently I use VirginMedia for phone service.
>
> I wonder if a tap which juts picks up the signal modulation on a
> line but does not interrupt it can be detected at all.
>
> Can I perform any checks?
> Can I ask VM to do any checks?
>
> As I am dealing with some odd folks, I would like to have the line
> checked regularly but would VirginMedia be prepared to do this?
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Author: StuartStuart Date: Feb 22, 2008 00:05
In article clintsmc.demon.co.uk>,
Clint Sharp clintsmc.demon.co.uk> wrote:> In message <47BDA04A.695BA780@ earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell
> earthlink.net> writes>> Doesn't your government waste money by junking repairable equipment?
> Ah, ours is way ahead of yours, we buy non working junk in the first
> place to save the effort of having to try and repair it later. It's much
> more efficient that way.
Yeh and most of it seems to be bought off the USA >8|
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Stuart Winsor
From is valid but subject to change without notice if it gets spammed.
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See: http://www.barndance.org.uk
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Author: Ivor JonesIvor Jones Date: Feb 22, 2008 02:52
"Michael A. Terrell" earthlink.net> wrote in
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: : Doesn't your government waste money by junking
: : repairable equipment?
No, they prefer to leave laptops containing everybody's personal details
in unattended cars in Birmingham.
Ivor
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Date: Feb 22, 2008 06:35
If someone can pull off a phone tap, then they are probably reading what you
write here. If I thought I was being tapped, I would have a phony
conversation with a partner about something of interest to the people I
thought tapped my line. Then I would look for a reaction to it. For
instance, if I thought it was the police, I might arrange a phony dope
transaction, complete with packages being exchanged.
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Date: Feb 22, 2008 08:22
aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:35:30 -0800, "Long Ranger"
> .net> wrote:
>
>>If someone can pull off a phone tap, then they are probably reading what
>>you
>>write here. If I thought I was being tapped, I would have a phony
>>conversation with a partner about something of interest to the people I
>>thought tapped my line. Then I would look for a reaction to it. For
>>instance, if I thought it was the police, I might arrange a phony dope
>>transaction, complete with packages being exchanged.
>>
> You are putting a lot of trust in the cops not to actually "find" some
> real dope when they arrest you.
>
> If they are really looking at you hard enough to get a legal tap they
> have other things that constitute "probable cause" for the warrant. If
> it is an illegal tap, they are by definition rogue cops. Who knows
> what they will do. ...
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Author: FoxtrotFoxtrot Date: Feb 22, 2008 18:16
On Fri 22 Feb 2008 05:35:30, Long Ranger wrote:
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> If someone can pull off a phone tap, then they are probably reading
> what you write here. If I thought I was being tapped, I would have
> a phony conversation with a partner about something of interest to
> the people I thought tapped my line. Then I would look for a
> reaction to it. For instance, if I thought it was the police, I
> might arrange a phony dope transaction, complete with packages
> being exchanged.
>
What you write sounds as if it would normally work but sadly in this
case it is not going to be if use.
I have already seen how the other side leaks absolutely nothing.
They observe and they learn and, when the time comes up, they use what
they know. But they never say what they know. No bluffs, feigns,
intimidations or any of that.
It can be quite scary to observe them in action when it is then clear
just how much they knew all along but by then they have made their move.
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