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Group: alt.energy.homepower · Group Profile
Author: MarkMark Date: Jun 10, 2008 09:36
On Jun 10, 7:51 am, Jim Wilkins gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 4:36 pm, Steve Ackman SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com>
> wrote:
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>> At any rate, I did no calculation. I posed a
>> hypothetical question.
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> (I know you're not the OP)
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> A hypothesis without calculation is the level of science of ancient
> Greece. Very many devices you can imagine will function as a model but
> they aren't efficient. The Greeks built quite a few of them; geared
> calculators, air compressors, one or more steam engines, the coin-
> operated vending machine, complicated clocks with singing and dancing
> figures, and so on. They promoted the concept that pure hypothesis was
> superior to calculation based on measurements, possibly because they
> couldn't measure very accurately, and that held science down to their
> level until a few hundred years ago.
>
> In this case a simple rule the OP missed is that losses increase with
> the difference in temperature. Cooling water to 10C is more efficient
> than freezing it. Somewhere around -20C the heat pump's efficiency
> falls to zero.
you get the heat of whatever electrical energy was needed to run the
freezer
PLUS you get the free heat extracted from the water to freeze it..
Say the freezer consumes 200 Watts for 8 hours. You get the heat
from that electrical energy that you have to pay for PLUS the free
heat that was extracted from the water.
If the COP of a typical freezer is = 2 then you consume 200 Watts of
power and get 400 Watts of heat.
Mark
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