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OK John, you convinced me. I just ordered one. It will serve as a backup
for my backup.

Vaughn

Hi All,
Hopefully this long letter will help others, even if I get no good
answers.
My problem is how to get 3 showers a week in cloudy weather back in
the beautiful pucker brush where propane transport is a pain and a
coil in the wood stove not desired. Input water is 40 degrees, and I
now use an old propane water heater with the burner replaced by wood.
After much reading, it seems these are my options, (along with
problems).

*30 gallon propane water heater that I turn totally off between use,
(or at least put in pilot position). I can wait. Possible problem here
is that I am allways heating cold water as ambient in that room is
winter time 50 degrees an ground water is 40 degrees. The reliance
manual says condensation is an issue with cold water and might put
pilot light out. (noisy too). Anyone done this much with cold water?

On Dec 22, 9:14 pm, "mikeandeb" sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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You don't get anything for nothing. The only way to make water into
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need to put in exactly as much energy as you would get out of the
resulting fuel.
This is a very basic law of physics. But unknown to all dumbarse
journalists.

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Fucking funny, as if it gets any more warmer where I live, it will be
freezing soon.

"Eve-EarthCharterFoundation" earthcharterfoundation.com> wrote in
message
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-> Well, I went to the trouble of doing the expirament and publishing
-> pictures of the result. If you succeeded in producting a measureable
-> chane. you can do what I did. I don't expect you will however.

-> Harry K

I'll get around to it.

Incidentally, are you sure that your brine was saturated, or close to
it? I know your picture shows solid salt lying on the bottom, but that
doesn't really mean much. Salt dissolves very slowly in cold water.
Unless you stirred for a very long time, the solution may have been
much less concentrated than you thought. Brine that is saturated at low
temperature contains about 23%% by mass of salt, e.g. 23 grams of salt
in 77 grams of water. Unless you dissolved roughly that much salt in
your water, it wasn't saturated.

dow

Hi all,

I'd like to do a wind speed study at my house to help make an informed
decision on a wind turbine. I don't even know where to start, but I see
that an anemometer is the device that will help me get data for this. I
found some different models on the internet, but I am a complete beginner
and I don't know what features are good or not really needed.

Can anyone give a quick review on what features to look for on an anemometer
and if possible, recommend a reasonably priced make/model that will do the
job for me? Obviously price is a major consideration (I don't want to spend
thousands, or even hundreds of dollars on this), but also ease of
installation and provides good useful data and a good computer interface.

Thanks much in advance.

Joe (joemagiera at ameritech dot net)
joemagiera@ameritech.net