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Re: What a bummer, check this out!         


Author: Mycoloteur
Date: Jan 31, 2008 15:26

On Jan 31, 4:42 am, fanghorn wrote:
> Justin yahoo.com> wrote innews:01e9372b-4f08-41eb-9991-706905cc5bb7@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
>> WELLINGTON, New Zealand, Jan. 29 -- Smoking a single marijuana joint
>> may be as carcinogenic to the lung as 20 tobacco cigarettes,
>> researchers here determined.
>
>> Those who smoked the equivalent of one joint a day for 10 years had a
>> 5.7 times higher lung cancer risk than nonsmokers even after adjusting
>> for tobacco use, reported Richard Beasley, M.B.Ch.B., of the Medical
>> Research Institute of New Zealand here, and colleagues in the Feb. 1
>> issue of the European Respiratory Journal.
>
>> The effect on lung cancer risk in the population-based case-control
>> study was even greater than the one joint to five cigarettes
>> equivalency for lung damage previously reported by the research group.
>> (See: One Cannabis Joint Equals Smoking Up to Five Cigarettes)Action
>> Points
>
> ...
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Re: What a bummer, check this out!         


Author: fanghorn
Date: Jan 31, 2008 21:28

Mycoloteur gmail.com> wrote in
news:2d9747b9-d958-4799-9c07-ed9e16b58836@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 31, 4:42 am, fanghorn wrote:
>> Justin yahoo.com> wrote
>> innews:01e9372b-4f08-41eb-9991-706905cc5bb7@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.co
>> m:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Absolutely no mention of whether the people who didn't smoke
>> cigarettes when the study started had *ever* smoked cigarettes or a
>> pipe or cigars.
>>
>> 2. No mention of whether they eliminated...
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Re: What a bummer, check this out!         


Author: Mycoloteur
Date: Jan 31, 2008 22:10

On Jan 31, 9:28 pm, fanghorn wrote:
> Mycoloteur gmail.com> wrote innews:2d9747b9-d958-4799-9c07-ed9e16b58836@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>> On Jan 31, 4:42 am, fanghorn wrote:
>>> Justin yahoo.com> wrote
>>> innews:01e9372b-4f08-41eb-9991-706905cc5bb7@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.co
>>> m:
>
>>>
>
>>> 1. Absolutely no mention of whether the people who didn't smoke
>>> cigarettes when the study started had *ever* smoked cigarettes or a
>>> pipe or cigars.
>
>>> 2. No mention of whether they eliminated other possible causes of
>>> lung cancer - such as asbestos, polution, bad genes, health and if so
>>> how.
> ...
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Re: What a bummer, check this out!         


Author: fanghorn
Date: Feb 2, 2008 07:54

Mycoloteur gmail.com> wrote in
news:e303120b-acff-4419-9e30-413d4cd439e4@m34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 31, 9:28 pm, fanghorn wrote:
>> Mycoloteur gmail.com> wrote
>> innews:2d9747b9-d958-4799-9c07-ed9e16b58836@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.co
>>> On Jan 31, 4:42 am, fanghorn wrote:
>>>> Justin yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> innews:01e9372b-4f08-41eb-9991-706905cc5bb7@i7g2000prf.googlegroups
>>>> .co m:
>>
>>>>
>> I wish I could track down that study that Trudeau/Pearson (or one of
>> his underlings) had done a while back. I mentioned it once here (or
>> in Buzzs' group or the culitvation group). That seems on the surface

"cultivation: that was supposed to be of course
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Author: BudBurner
Date: Feb 2, 2008 08:51

On Feb 2, 9:54 am, fanghorn wrote:
> Actually if pot contains carcinogens and they aren't just produced by
> burning it, it wouldn't matter how it was consumed. Not that it matters
> I think. If there was proof of cancer, there would be undeniable proof.
> Hell they knew radium caused it in the 30's. There's *lots* of studies
> "proving" something causes cancer. Are you old enough to remember the
> saccarine scare? It's just the faint hope of proof that pot is harmful I
> think, nothing more.

The biggest single problem is pot's legal status and those
that wish to keep it that way. It has been ages since Ansinger and his
minions equated cannabis with bizzare supposed side effects and...
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Re: What a bummer, check this out!         


Author: Mycoloteur
Date: Feb 2, 2008 15:13

On Feb 2, 7:54 am, fanghorn wrote:
> Mycoloteur gmail.com> wrote innews:e303120b-acff-4419-9e30-413d4cd439e4@m34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Jan 31, 9:28 pm, fanghorn wrote:
>>> Mycoloteur gmail.com> wrote
>>> innews:2d9747b9-d958-4799-9c07-ed9e16b58836@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.co
>>>> On Jan 31, 4:42 am, fanghorn wrote:
>>>>> Justin yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> innews:01e9372b-4f08-41eb-9991-706905cc5bb7@i7g2000prf.googlegroups
>>>>> .co m:
>
>>>>>
>>> I wish I could track down that study that Trudeau/Pearson (or one of
>>> his underlings) had done a while back. I mentioned it once here (or
>>> in Buzzs' group or the culitvation group). That seems on the surface
>
> "cultivation: that was supposed to be of course
>
>>> far more valuable/truthful than these junk ones we see all the time.
> ...
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Re: What a bummer, check this out!         


Author: Mycoloteur
Date: Feb 2, 2008 15:22

On Feb 2, 8:51 am, BudBurner hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 2, 9:54 am, fanghorn wrote:
>
>> Actually if pot contains carcinogens and they aren't just produced by
>> burning it, it wouldn't matter how it was consumed. Not that it matters
>> I think. If there was proof of cancer, there would be undeniable proof.
>> Hell they knew radium caused it in the 30's. There's *lots* of studies
>> "proving" something causes cancer. Are you old enough to remember the
>> saccarine scare? It's just the faint hope of proof that pot is harmful I
>> think, nothing more.
>
> The biggest single problem is pot's legal status and those
> that wish to keep it that way. It has been ages since Ansinger and his
> minions equated cannabis with bizzare supposed side effects and sadly
> this is what our congressional representatives remember from the
> propaganda touted when *they* were at the impressionable school age.
> This hurdle will be hard to leap; a lie, repeated often enough, is
> taken as the truth.
> Once impartial studies can be performed (without using NIDA/
> DEA crappy government pot!!) there will likely be some progress made. ...
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Re: What a bummer, check this out!         


Author: BudBurner
Date: Feb 2, 2008 18:05

On Feb 2, 5:22 pm, Mycoloteur gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 2, 8:51 am, BudBurner hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Feb 2, 9:54 am, fanghorn wrote:
>
>>> Actually if pot contains carcinogens and they aren't just produced by
>>> burning it, it wouldn't matter how it was consumed. Not that it matters
>>> I think. If there was proof of cancer, there would be undeniable proof.
>>> Hell they knew radium caused it in the 30's. There's *lots* of studies
>>> "proving" something causes cancer. Are you old enough to remember the
>>> saccarine scare? It's just the faint hope of proof that pot is harmful I
>>> think, nothing more.
>
>>         The biggest single problem is pot's legal status and those
>> that wish to keep it that way. It has been ages since Ansinger and his
>> minions equated cannabis with bizzare supposed side effects and sadly ...
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