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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max Grrl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> W-e-l-l-l-l-l, to an extent, that is. "With one of mine, I can
>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of yours as I want" old joke aside, in the Bible, men were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encouraged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have several wives merely for the fact that one man can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impregnate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple women.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But really, hitting on us in the grocery store check-out line
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do much to make us think that you're more than "cannon
> fodder."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It just perpetuates the old "He wants it more than she" kinda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In all actuality, we like it just as much as you guys> do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more. You know . . . the whole "multiple orgasms thing? ; )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, about that multiple orgasm thing...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I can reliably assist in reproducing that effect on command,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't that get me some brownie points? Like, just one good
> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be nice for me... And I'm happy to get mine after you...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean, it would be nice to share the moment, but that takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> familiarity and practice, and it isn't /always/ practical...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know what an amazing orgasm a devoted lover can bring me. I
>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an ambition to always offer (and deliver) as good as I get, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideally, I'd like to deliver it before getting my own. Sort of,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'eat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your vegetables before dessert' kinda thing (is there a pun in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there??). It just seems the natural order of things, you know
>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL, "ladies first" in that regard is *NEVER* a problem! : )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My hubby is such a doofus - he's the best lover you could ever
> ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet on our first date, he made a comment about sex (he's got a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very dry sense of humor and a very sarcastic wit): If a man and
> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> woman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start at the same time, and the woman doesn't get hers, well,
> she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the race.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I almost walked out. I'm glad I didn't. : )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damn! I forgot! You are hitched!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. : )
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I try to avoid flirting with married women as a rule..
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? It makes for good practice.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Though I have to say, you certainly don't fucking need it. : )
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I *wasn't* married . . . .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mmmmmmm.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> IC - Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I sure fucking need something.
>>>>>>>>>>> And self service isn't quite getting me there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ahhh well.
>>>>>>>>>> Pfft. A guy that sweet talks as well as you do "needing" something?
>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can I make a guess though? From the way you post, I'd say that
>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>> pretty quiet and introverted - meaning more reflective and laid back
>>>>>>>>>> rather than impulsive and EXtroverted . . . have you tried going
>>>>>>>>>> somewhere you don't usually? Something on the "fringe" of your
>>>>>>>>>> typical
>>>>>>>>>> haunts? You know . . . say, for the sake of the argument, you like
>>>>>>>>>> jazz . . . try taking a trip to a local blues joint and see who's
>>>>>>>>>> there? You'd get to have fun and at the same time, maybe meet a cool
>>>>>>>>>> chick you can introduce to jazz . . .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe, the next time you're at a party, *don't* wait to see if
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> chick is checking *you* out . . . just go up to one and introduce
>>>>>>>>>> yourself. Check out her clothes - you can figure out a lot about a
>>>>>>>>>> woman's clothes . . . if she's wearing something pink and frilly,
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> can get the idea that she's the "I like a man to take charge" kinda
>>>>>>>>>> chick. Then you can just put on your brightest, most reassuring
>>>>>>>>>> smile
>>>>>>>>>> and talk to her . . . if she's wearing black, chances are, she's
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> of the "I like to take charge" kinda girl . . . and usually a bit
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> "open" - she's gonna see you on a level playing field and you can be
>>>>>>>>>> take-charge enough to challenge her a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But again, I really get the vibe that you're one of those ultra laid
>>>>>>>>>> back kinda guys . . . don't be so laid back and introverted . . .
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> OUT there. Do something that you've always wanted to do but didn't
>>>>>>>>>> think you should - chances are, you'll meet someone exactly like
>>>>>>>>>> *you*
>>>>>>>>>> and have fun, to boot!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ((((hugs))))
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW, if you're ever feeling the need to practice flirting, feel
>>>>>>>>>> free.
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>> I like it and you're *GREAT* at it! : )
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ohh wow. I hope that was as good for you as it was for me.
>>>>>>>>> Your advice is well taken and I shall implement it within the next
>>>>>>>>> few weeks. Needs must be taken care of first. And my art, too;
>>>>>>>>> beckons me, but it is in fact the display method I best use in
>>>>>>>>> courtship, and shall be brought to bear as you have suggested.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But your assessment is as cutting and true to the core as Mr. Me was
>>>>>>>>> those many months ago before I began the dieting and exercise
>>>>>>>>> regimens which have benefited me so much. Usenet is changing my life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I shall be referring to your wonderful advice for particulars at
>>>>>>>>> such time as I begin the 'process', you can be sure of that as well.
>>>>>>>> LOL, was that honest or clever sarcasm?! : )
>>>>>>> I dislike clever sarcasm and never practice it.
>>>>>> I didn't think you did . . . but really, you were SO nice that I did
>>>>>> entertain the slightest suspicion. : )
>>>>>>>> Anyway, I'm sure tis what you've already thought of, done and just
>>>>>>>> didn't like . . . I was just speaking from a wee bit of experience .
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> . though, to be honest, since I've always been commitment-shy, I did
>>>>>>>> it to find new friends in new towns - and it's always worked. If it
>>>>>>>> wasn't for the "club" idea, I would have never gotten into Nina
>>>>>>>> Simone.
>>>>>>>> And that would have been a real shame. : )
>>>>>>> I cherish advice that is unconditional and free under normal
>>>>>>> circumstance. Coming from a clear headed and undoubtedly beautiful
>>>>>>> female only makes it all the more precious. That it concerns the
>>>>>>> nature of one of the most enduring and vexing conundrums of male
>>>>>>> existence makes it invaluable in the extreme.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just want to see you happy. : )
>>>>>>>> But do not lose heart, Sir Knight, your damsel is tied to a tree and
>>>>>>>> *waiting* for you to come and rescue her. You will slay the fierce
>>>>>>>> dragon, mightily and handily whip the craven evil knight and escape
>>>>>>>> henceforth with said lovely damsel on back of your yonder fiery-hooved
>>>>>>>> steed! You will marry (or at least shack up for a while), and she
>>>>>>>> shall
>>>>>>>> clean your castle, wash thy undergarments, and service thy needs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I say, so shall it become. : )
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For some reason, the image of you as a gallant sir knight just
>>>>>>>> *really*
>>>>>>>> seems to fit. : )
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (((hugs)))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May the power of thy manifestations conjure my destiny.
>>>>>> Oh, it *is* destiny. Fueled by *your* power more than any I might have.
>>>>>> : )
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yeah, I know the juice in my tank come from my end of the
>>>>> universe; but every little bit helps and when I thunder across the
>>>>> sky at mach eight I'm giving thanks for it all.
>>>> Um, fiery hooved steeds don't GO mach eight. See below.
>>>>
>>> the speed of magic is not measured by this world.
>>
>> *sigh*
>> I am but a mere mortal lost in the mortal coil of life.
>>
>
> Such is the dichotomy of physical life.
Every time a bone creaks, I know that well. : )
>
>> You, my friend, are a mythical being - a giant shrugging the weight of
>> the world, a leprechaun granting wishes, a chimera, rising from the
>> ashes. : )
>>
>
> Mythical to you perhaps, but provider of Purina (long hair formula)
> and grooming to SnoWhite. Dreamer of treasures perhaps, yet striving
> to rise above trucking and achieve LPIC level 1 status.
Oooh . . . what's LPIC?? Care to share?
>
>> Your speed may nor be measured by such as I, but mine is. : )
>
> We must each measure our own speed of ecstatic transport. As we
> orbit through the multiverse we sometimes come in fleeting contact
> with each other, such precious things are shared. The we careen away
> again under the influence of the things we orbit around. Our wills
> are but a minor player in the lela of our lives.
Again, I am not the intellectual you are - but I think I understood
most of that. : )
Each person directly affects the lives of others - even those they have
never met. Liken it to the commercials I see all the time . . . about
kindness being contagious . . you do a nice thing for someone and they
in return do a nicety for someone else. And so on, and so on. But of
course, that's mere kindness - it's not nearly as grand as actually
*connecting* with someone.
Like I think we have done. : )
>
>>>> Call yourself a "modern" man all you like, but I don't see you as
>>>> embracing a sexless, sterile-emotioned world - I see you as a hopeless
>>>> romantic, gentleman, and overall renaissance man. : )
>>>>
>>> I don't believe in a sexless sterile world.
>>> (That would be a sad place indeed.)
>>
>> Do you see an alternative? I think that may very well be where our
>> world ends - a sterile, sexless, emotionless sea.
>>
>
> Your perspective is an unfortunate artifact of the culture you are
> immersed in. Think of Michael, who lives the 'Life of Reilly' on the
> smaller islands up the coast north of here. He has a cabin, a
> woodstove, a dog, and an outhouse. In a forested area, with a lonely
> beach. It is a drive of some distance through relative wilderness to
> the nearest store.
As long as he has a modem and can talk on usenet, right?
*sigh*
I think that people like Michael will be a minority. I think that
people are too easily swayed by what is easy and offers immediate
gratification. Plus, we are animals driven by phobias, both internal
and external . . . internal, such as claustrophobia, external such as
disease, STDs, AIDS, the like, death, and getting "hurt."
As long as we fear those things - things we really can't control, we
will be driven to the existence I mentioned . . . sexless (no STDs or
AIDs), sterile (afraid of disease - I mean, look at how many
"anti-bacterial products there are on the marker. You can't get away
from them), emotionless - provides too many opportunities to get hurt.
And emotions aren't conducive to getting what YOU want NOW. They get in
the way. If you sit in front of a TV all day, ordering things online,
you've removed the human element. We do that all the time and it's more
convenient and we don't even notice the injury.
>
>> How often do you get to work with your hands? When was the last time
>> the average person built a, say, coffee table (not to mention, that in
>> the long ago past, there really were no such things - they were
>> frivolities) with his bare hands, sweat and heart?
>
> I play music with my hands.
I've actually been blessed in that area . . . I'm a graphic artist and
I've never forgotten my artistic roots. I screenprint for fun, do
amateur photography (B&W - it seems more . . . honest, than color),
and blockprint. I don't paint as much as I used to, tho . . . I might
have to go back to that. But also I LOVE refinishing and restoring
antiques!! My favorite acquisition is an old farm table - it's got old
stains and gouges on it. I didn't remove those, I just laquered over
them. I liked how . . . used and loved it was, and wanted to keep it
that way. Kind of a homage to the family before mine's dinners,
conversations, etc. Just the love that surrounded it and permeated the
wood.
I have a particular weakness for love . . . mainly because I don't
really feel love, as a condition of my condition. I DO love my kids,
and I love my hubby as much as I can . . . but I know that it's not
love like others talk about. : (
>
>>
>> The answer is probably never: We go to IKEA or Rooms To Go and buy one
>> made in a factory, constructed of "wood-like" materials. That's one
>> step further from earthiness and sweat than we were, say 100 years ago.
>>
>
> Here you are. Your cultural environment.
Not just mine, though. It's everywhere. At least everywhere that I can
see. : (
>
>> If you want a meal, what is it likely that you'll do for it? Go to
>> Mickey Dee's or Sonic's Drive-In. It used to be a once-in-a-while thing
>> when we were kids (or at least when I was) and now, it's common place.
>> Several of our friends eat take-out at least 3 times a week.
>>
>
> The markets are getting more and more advanced. It is probably
> almost as economical to eat take-out as it is to cook at home in
> your area. I am considering learning how to make my own tofu and
> soya milk from the raw soybeans, so that I may be more prepared for
> the move out to the Crib when I get my chance.
I didn't used to be into cooking . . . but since moving near our best
friends, who incidentally is an "organic" cordon bleu chef, I've begun
haunting the organic aisles at our grocery store (Publix - they offer
more organic options that anyone else within a 50 mile radius). But I
sometimes forego the organic options for my favorite dishes - paella
and medianoches (Cuban sandwiches with sweeter bread than the
traditional Cubanos), Black Beans and rice, etc.
Cuban fare (which we LOVE) is not something that lends itself to
organic food, but we make concessions to organic where we can. : )
>
> My own hydro-electric plant attached to the waterfall 30 yards from
> my house site, and a prospector's 99 year land lease in the outback
> of Van Isl.
I'll have to look up Van Isl . . . : )
Would be so kind as to tell me more about your paradise? : )
>
>> When was the last time that you spoke to a customer service rep and
>> sensed any warmth or real human element? Nowadays, most *people* are
>> replaced by automated voice answering systems . . .
>>
>
> I had a nice chat with the insurance rep when my car was ripped off
> last week. She surprised me when she informed me my unspecified
> perils rider included theft.
But now, with most insurance agencies, you can file a claim online - no
human needed. Our ins co is still in the "dark ages" in that respect
(no online filing) and that's probably the biggest reason we still use
them. It's *nice* to be able to talk to a live human being. And
nowadays, with most things, it's so RARE.
I usually pay the bulk of our bills online. Most companies actually
penalize you if you don't. And I am usually in too big of a hurry to
actually call and make our payments . . . so I'm guilty of the same
thing I'm accusing society. : /
>
>> How about kids? Most kids are more interested in playing computer
>> games, not playing a pick-up game of B-ball in the driveway . . . no
>> human interaction whatsoever there.
>>
>
> In many ways, this is a blessing that needs to be properly managed.
If I had a nickel for every time that I've shoved my son out the door,
forcing him, almost, to ride his bike, play with other kids, or play
B-ball (we bought him a pro grade hoop for Christmas - because he
wanted one - but he doesn't use it) . . .
My girlie, OTOH is content to read, play with other kids, or do sports
. . . video games are nowhere near being the center of her life.
She's like me. : )
My son is like his dad. He loves sitting in front of the boob tube,
vegging out and watching other people live life.
>
>> We're so used to having things done *for* us - often with little to no
>> human contact. I can definitely see a sexless, sterile, emotionless
>> world in our near future . . .
>
> Buck up, girl. Father Sol is still warm. Every drink of fresh water
> reminds you of Mother Gaia's love. There are flowers somewhere near
> your home?
Only the ones in the house . . . I have a garden but I keep it where I
can see it (small, on our balcony). Outside, not so much . . . I'm
forgetful and I've lost countless number of plants because of it. We
get such droughts here, that you HAVE to water them twice a day even in
winter. I'd rather not have them at all, than have them and kill them.
: /
I have a herb garden that I'm obsessive about, tho. Nearly every herb
you can think of. And in many cases, the ones that I use most often in
cooking, I have three of each. : )
To me, herbs are useful more so than flowers. And many herbs flower,
too.
>
>>> At least not one inhabited by moi in his current form.
>>> If I were a crystalline entity, perhaps.
>>
>> Don't speak too soon . . . it's happening. Even as we speak. : (
>
> The darkforces will always fail. Such is the nature of the universe.
And then we start over . . . but in that adaptive stage, there'll be
suffering. I'm concerned about future grandkids.
>
>>> But I am Water, and Carbon, and Free Oxygen.
>>> I like a warm fuzzy world, preferably with tons of hugs and
>>> snuggles. Until such time as a human woman enters mine, my music, my
>>> friends, my kitty, my daughter and granddaughter will keep my heart
>>> warm.
>>
>> Same here. : )
>>
>> I like your world better than mine. : )
>
> Poverty sucks.
> I have precious little economic leeway in my life, dear.
Well, I grew up the proverbial little rich kid . . . and I was lonely,
bored and overall miserable. My parents were essentially "career
people" and I spent quite a bit of time on my own or at school (until
HS, where I *demanded* that I be allowed to go to public school).
I never had anything in common with my peers. I didn't care for mind
games, or the "social" activities that I was supposed to obsess over.
The peers I had were little more than mindless snot factories, obsessed
with how much daddy was going to leave them when they died, what
so-and-so wore to what occasion, and who was going to be the richest
when the world ended.
I ended up spending more time with the "help" or with the "poor" kids.
They were fucking *people* - they gave a shit about other people and
the world around them. They were far more honest, kind, intelligent,
and worth the air they breathed.
Even today, it's all about "appearances" - how you dress, what you say,
who you're with . . . mindless bullshit. I'm usually on the fringes of
what's acceptable - and I usually get away with it based on my being an
artist. Being an artist gives you carte blanche to be different (you
oughta see how I dress - think urban DC, LOL) and to have codes of
conduct that others wouldn't agree with. If I weren't an artist and
"special" that way, I probably would've shot myself years ago.
And ftr, being a psychopath . . . well, that would NEVER be acceptable
in the circles I'm forced to dwell in. Alcoholism, yes. Cocaine, yep.
Depression, you betcha. Greed, of course. Hell, those are social badges
of courage. Otherwise, no.
So would I choose a world were I could be accepted for who I am, yes.
With all I've said, I like your world better. Much better. Yours has
more freedom and quality of life.
>
>>>> You know, a renaissance man struggling in a sterile world, bringing joy
>>>> and chivalry to all he surveils. Armed only with his gentle (though
>>>> clever) wit, a winning smile, an open heart, and a blazing fast modem
>>>> connection. : )
>>>>
>>> yas, and an ISP that still doesn't know what a legal poast is.
>>> Blazing fast or not, they are going to get their peepee wacked.
>>
>> Oooh, what do you mean???
>
> Got netkkkoped over a crosspost to alt.sailing.asa
> my ISP is still trying to justify the kneejerk scolding they gave me
> on the strength of the SanFransisco ISP's referral without checking
> the content of the poast.
Who net.kkkopped you???? You of ALL people? What kind of a fucking
shithead did you inadvertently insult with your overabundance of
intelligence???
Care to share a name? : )
>
> I am in the process of making them eat their words.
Good for you!! At the risk of sounding like a nut, I hope you
disembowel them with their own words.
>
>>> Don't ever loose touch with me. You are a Unicorn in my world.
>>
>> LOL, only *you* would call me a unicorn. : )
>>
>
> I am going to have sweet dreams tonight, my child.
> Legend shall take the myst of light, and one breath butterfly the
> star...
Shouldn't you be x-posting to a poetry group? : )
A hopeless romantic, you. : )
I love it! : )
>
>> And because of you and a very few others, I plan on staying here until
>> I'm net.kkkopped or dead. : )
>
>
> No dying. Not allowed.
>
Enh, psychopaths commit suicide far more than any other "mentally ill"
group. We're susceptible to depression, taking inordinate risks,
overall self-destruction (for example, I smoke far more than I should,
LOL. Despite that, I continually pass "stress tests" far more than my
peers who DON'T smoke. Most doctors can't even tell that I've been
smoking for the past 20 years).
Female psychopaths are usually self-destructive in that they are
extremely sexually promiscuous and prone to hard drug abuse. I have at
least, avoided that bullet. : )
But in the end, it is what it is.
*shrugs*
But I appreciate your sentiment. : )
>> You're more than worth it. : )
>>
>
> So sweet you are, I can almost smell your hair...
Coconut and Hibiscus for hair, cottonwood for body wash.
Did you guess correctly? : )
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