> "Yer Pal Al" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 27, 4:37 pm, "john smith" bigpond.net.au> wrote:

>> "Jorge W. Arbusto, Presidential Candidate" wrote
>> in
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>>> "Sanders Kaufman" kaufman.net> wrote in message
>>> news:xI6nj.749$5K1.74@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
>>> | "Jorge W. Arbusto, Presidential Candidate"
>>> wrote
>>> in
>>> | messagenews:_05nj.3461$nK5.1345@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> | >
>>> | > Then, one way or another, they'll be eliminated from society.
>>> Taxpayers'
>>> | > money shouldn't be used to supply druggie parasites with dope. They
>>> made
>>> | > a
>>> | > conscious decision at some point in their lives to abuse drugs; they
>>> can
>>> | > either pay the consequences or clean themselves up.
>>> |
>>> | Drug abuse is its own consequence.
>>> The consequence isn't acknowledged by the user.
>>> | We give them help not to reward them, but to protect ourselves.
>>> |
>>> When it becomes too risky to use illegal drugs, many people will choose
>>> forgo use. This has been proven through DOT's mandatory random drug
>>> screening scheme.

>> So using "legal" drugs like alcohol is ok, I am damn sure that drink
>> driving
>> kills more than drugs do, and after drinking too much you have violence
>> not
>> only in the home but anywhere else either.

>
> That's like saying tax cuts mostly help the rich and socialized
> medicine will mostly help white folks when you disregard the
> percentages. People are 1000X more likely to be killed distributing
> and using illegal drugs than alcohol.
>
> What crap, what are the stats in USA where people killed in accidents is a
> direct result of drink driving,not to mention all the cripples from the
> smae, what cost is that to the country, medical,rehab, courts and the like.
> And the bloody drink drivers never learn and keep doing it.
>

>> Cigarettes are "legal" drugs as
>> well, how many die from smoking and second hand smoke,how much time does
>> it
>> take having a smoko break at work and the wasted production opportunities
>> lost. How come you are not harping on about these drugs which are "legal"

>
> Peoples' personal safety is less at risk drinking Jack Daniel's and
> smoking Camels than Bob's "I didn't know wood alcohol was poisonous"
> Gin and Martin's "Did I forget to cut it?" heroin.
>
> That's crap and you know it.
>

>> why don't you push that these drugs are banned once and for all. Think of
>> all the money on wasted medical expenses not to mention the court expenses
>> that these "legal" drugs incur, I am damn sure that the money wasted on
>> alcohol related crime and illness and driving accidents plus the medical
>> procedures to repair smokers far outweigh the cost of stopping people
>> smoking marijuana, which I must say is what this newsgroup is all about
>> and
>> not the hard drugs that you are bellyaching about. Bet you won't try to
>> stop
>> all the tobacco and alcohol companies from selling their products to save
>> a
>> hell of a lot more people that fall by the wayside because of their
>> "legal"
>> products, or are you too afraid of what taxes that you may be losing.

>
> We could outlaw fast food too. That would save a lot of money.
>
> But the debate isn't about fast foods is it.
>

>> On one
>> hand you are lynching people for using drugs and should spend heaps of
>> money
>> testing people, but on the otherhand you don't mind "legal" drugs taking
>> their toll not only on peoples lives but the windfall of all the money
>> that
>> the "legal" drugs bring in,

>
> That's a good point... The legal drugs do offset some of their impact
> with tax revenue.
>

>> so all in all you too are encouraging selling
>> drugs, just because they are deemed "legal" that do just as much damage if
>> not more as "hard" drugs do. Lets test all people for nicotine and alcohol
>> as well.

>
> Nicotine users never kill someone because of cigarettes. Alcohol users
> sometimes do, but as a percentage it is very low. Illegal drugs users
> also sometimes kill someone but the distrubution for illegal drugs is
> a blood bath.
>
> You make me laugh with that, the debate is using drugs and testing, buying a
> couple of joints or a sack of grass resulting in a
> bloodbath....hahahahahaha.
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