On Aug 4, 12:20Â am, Mycoloteur
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hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Aug 3, 7:28 am, Mycoloteur
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>>> On Aug 3, 4:20 am, "Fred Mertz"
whatever.org> wrote:>
>>>> Judy & BudBurner,
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>>>> For the sake of discussion; I was perusing some reading material regarding
>>>> grow lights. Â I happened onto several articles regarding using Fluorescents
>>>> &-or (newer) LED. Â They produce no heat which effectively negates FLIR,
>>>> reduces electric bills, are certainly less expensive, and as a result, they
>>>> both negate the risk of fire & law enforcement for the aforementioned
>>>> reasons.
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>>>> Opinions between growers were interesting. Â Some growers are adamant about
>>>> their high pressure sodium lights, while others who have used (certain
>>>> types) of fluorescents claim there is no difference between the two.
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>>>> Do either of you two have any experience with growing (anything) using
>>>> Florescent lights or LED?
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>>>> DudeMaster
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>>>> "Judy Scobee"
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>>>>> OH, NO!!!!! Â Why did you plant 'em, where the Dog could get to them???
>>>>> I would've planted those precious seeds/plants indoors, with a pot of
>>>>> soil and under a light for each one (see: How to Grow MJ for under $100
>>>>> book)!!! Â Hmm? Karma??
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>>>>> = Judy =
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>>> I can tell you that there are definitely differences but that the
>>> newer high output flouros are pretty good.
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>>> OTOH, I am just about converted fully to LEDs. Certainly they are the
>>> only thing I am investing in anyway.
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>>> LEDs work well, and are getting better every day. The latest
>>> generation of higher power units (50 watt and up) produce exceptional
>>> results.
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>>> They are still a little expensive on the startup side, but pay for
>>> themselves in reduce power/heat etc. Additionally, their starting
>>> prices are dropping at roughly the same rate as computer development
>>> and so we can likely expect them to be dirt cheap and brighter than
>>> the sun in 10 years. ;) Over the next 1 to 2 years their starting
>>> price is going to come into direct competition with HID and even
>>> flouros. Once that happens it will be mostly over for the other
>>> lighting choices because LEDs are a better solution (though a very
>>> expensive one till recently).
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>>> Love and Light-
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>> Â Â Â Â Â Speaking of LEDs, my first production Aluminum-clad PC board
>> just arrived from China and as soon as we get the solder paste stencil
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> aluminum clad? why?
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>> from the vendor we are building out 5 LED grow lights units to play
>> around with and put in a store window in one of the brew and grow
>> chains. It's taken 6 months (3 months longer than I wanted to due to
>> LED supplier problems) to get to this point. I certainly hope prices
>> will drop for the raw materials;
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> No doubt it will be really nice when the prices drop to 50 or 25%% of
> what they are now.
> the most expensive single part is the
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>> circuit board itself, before any parts go on it! Metals costs are out
>> of this world right now!
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> Interesting. I wonder if there is some way to exploit that...
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>> Â Â Â Â Â LED lights will make it much safer for the home grower, and
>> more economical too.
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> Indeed, safer both from the perspective of detection, but also from
> fire hazard. A lot of fires are started by HIDs for example.
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>> Â Â Â Â Â BudBurner
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> Cool, what wattage etc are these? Are you going to resell them? If so
> how much?
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> Sa-
The unit I am right now involved with is to replace a 400 watt
HID light. Hopefully they will appear in a local brew and grow chain's
catalog and at that time I'll post a link. They have a good catalog
already so this will get my lighting system some much needed exposure.
The rest will depend upon how it performs for everyone and the kind of
reviews it gets. That right there will either kick it into high gear
or send it off of the edge of the cliff into oblivion. It's gotta be
what people want, and it's gotta work, and it absolutely needs to be
affordable. Time will tell!
BudBurner
