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Author: HackamoreHackamore Date: Jun 28, 2008 08:04
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - This city's many fine coffee shops have faced
many problems over the years and are still going strong. But, on July 1,
the Netherlands will be one of the last European countries to ban
smoking in bars and restaurants in compliance with EU law.
The Health Ministry says the ban will apply to cafes that sell
marijuana, known as coffee shops. But this being Holland, which for
centuries has experimented with social liberalism, there's a loophole:
The ban covers tobacco but not marijuana, which is technically illegal
anyway.
But that still leaves coffee shops and their customers in a bind. Dutch
and other European marijuana users traditionally smoke cannabis (both
pot and hash) pot mixed with tobacco.
"It's the world upside down: In other countries they look for the
marijuana in the cigarette. Here they look for the cigarette in the
marijuana," said Jason den Enting, manager of coffee shop Dampkring.
Shops are scrambling to adapt. One alternative is "vaporizer" machines,
which heat weed smokelessly. Another is to replace tobacco with herbs
like coltsfoot, a common plant that looks like a dandelion and that
smokers describe as tasting a bit like oregano.
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Author: Mustafa KamelMustafa Kamel Date: Jun 28, 2008 10:29
On 28 Jun, 17:04, Hackamore yahoo.com> wrote:
> German tourist Lars Schmit said lamented the possible end of an era.
> Without coffee shops, he said, "a little bit of Amsterdam will die."
conversely, less people will....
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Author: Yakky DahYakky Dah Date: Jun 28, 2008 11:15
Mustafa Kamel wrote:
> On 28 Jun, 17:04, Hackamore yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> German tourist Lars Schmit said lamented the possible end of an era.
>> Without coffee shops, he said, "a little bit of Amsterdam will die."
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> conversely, less people will....
Eh??????????????
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Author: fanghornfanghorn Date: Jun 28, 2008 12:20
> AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - This city's many fine coffee shops have
> faced
> many problems over the years and are still going strong. But, on July
> 1, the Netherlands will be one of the last European countries to ban
> smoking in bars and restaurants in compliance with EU law.
>
Well, Buzz, you went at the right time. This could *kill* the cafe
business there. When they banned smoking in bars here, inside of a year
half of the bars in the cities closed along with the owner of the
largest retailer of smokes selling out.
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Author: Ian F.Ian F. Date: Jun 28, 2008 15:25
> The Health Ministry says the ban will apply to cafes that sell
> marijuana, known as coffee shops.
I was there last weekend and was told that the brown cafes were exempt.
I'm not sure anyone knows quite what the position will be.
Ian
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Author: Dr John WatsonDr John Watson Date: Jun 29, 2008 00:20
Noticed at Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:25:39 +0100: Ian F. informed us:
>> The Health Ministry says the ban will apply to cafes that sell
>> marijuana, known as coffee shops.
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> I was there last weekend and was told that the brown cafes were exempt.
> I'm not sure anyone knows quite what the position will be.
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> Ian
The position is that tobacco is banned. However, cannabis is not covered
by the ban, so people will be allowed to smoke cannabis without tobacco.
--
Dr John Watson
Baker Street
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Author: Judy ScobeeJudy Scobee Date: Jun 29, 2008 01:15
Wow! This is such an awful thing . . . and I haven't been there, yet!
= Judy =
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Author: Puffin' BillyPuffin' Billy Date: Jun 29, 2008 04:05
On 28 Jun, 20:15, Yakky Dah tiscali.net> wrote:> Mustafa Kamel wrote:
>> On 28 Jun, 17:04, Hackamore yahoo.com> wrote:>
>>> German tourist Lars Schmit said lamented the possible end of an era.
>>> Without coffee shops, he said, "a little bit of Amsterdam will die."
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>> conversely, less people will....
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> Eh??????????????
Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Author: Judy ScobeeJudy Scobee Date: Jun 29, 2008 15:21
Hmmm? No more Cannabis Cup? No more "Coffee shops" with MJ? No more
MJ??? This doesn't sound good.
= Judy =
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Author: Olde TechOlde Tech Date: Jun 29, 2008 17:31
> Hmmm? No more Cannabis Cup? No more "Coffee shops" with MJ? No more
> MJ??? This doesn't sound good.
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> = Judy =
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Don't panic, you'll still be able to buy weed at the coffee shops, you just
won't be able to mix it with tobacco as the natives are prone to do.
And the CC is just a sham anyway. Nothing more than a publicity gimmick run
by an American magazine. All it means to the weed industry there is a few
extra tourist dollars.
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