On Aug 8, 7:15 am, Mariah Kaze
bresnan.net> wrote:> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:27:55 -0700 (PDT), Mycoloteur
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gmail.com> wrote:>>On Aug 4, 7:50 pm, Mariah Kaze
bresnan.net> wrote:>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 01:44:03 -0700 (PDT), Mycoloteur
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>>>>On Aug 2, 6:48 am, Mariah Kaze
bresnan.net> wrote:>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:37:33 -0700 (PDT), Mycoloteur
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>>>>>>On Jul 31, 7:08 pm, Mariah Kaze
bresnan.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Mycoloteur
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gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>On Jul 28, 11:45 pm, Mariah Kaze
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>>>>>>Dry out? Die? Yellow? What exactly do you mean. It is common near the
>>>>>>end of the flowering for the plant to begin recycling its fan leaves.
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>>>>> The leaves are drying at the edges, a few have dried completely and
>>>>> fallen off, others have dry areas. I think what may be causing it is
>>>>> leaf feeding in the sun. I just have a regular house fan blowing
>>>>> throughout the day, with windows open. It's very dry here and it's
>>>>> possible I am under-watering a bit especially on days when I'm gone
>>>>> for most of the day and evening. Two days per week in succession. I
>>>>> don't want to over-water. The balance is difficult to achieve without
>>>>> the expensive tools of the trade - which I'm gradually gathering as I
>>>>> go into winter and will continue the grow under lights.
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>>>>Hmmm... Pictures?
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>>Hmmm... well its not normal. Looks like some kind of rot or bugs but I
>>suppose it could be nutrients too. Either way since there are only a
>>couple of affected leaves, my guess is some kind of physical damage.
>>Either from something spilling, or bugs or that kind of thing.
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> The second week of July, we had a frost! She was in the open widow
> that night and that could be it. I don't want to use chemicals for a
> fungus or bugs but I'll trim those leaves and see if more develop. The
> clones also have it but I took them shortly after this happened. It
> got my tomato plants too.
Yeah, definately could be.
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>>Since there are only a couple of them, I would remove them if the
>>lesions start to spread. Otherwise, don't trip.
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> Not very worried because the other plants don't show any signs of it
> and she's still growing.
Yeah, like I said, except for the couple of spots they look healthy.
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>>Ideally, I think I recommend larger pots BTW. What are those 1 gallon?
>>You can't get decent (quantity) results especially in soil with any
>>less than 2-3 gallons. Preferably 5-10 if you really want full size
>>plants/good flowers. Don't trip about buying them though. You can get
>>appropriate empty containers of a number of types for little or
>>nothing if you look around. My neighbor throws away a big two gallon
>>protein shake containers about once a week for example. Just keep your
>>eyes open, drive behind a shopping center, ask at the grocery store
>>etc. Just tell em you are growing veggies on your patio or sumthin.
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> I got four 5 gallon tubs from a friend who works at a nursery - that's
> a lot of dirt!
Yeah. Good. That will help alot I think.
> It's supposed to rain all day today so will be working
> on the room and putting up the Mylar, hanging the light I have and
> scooping out more. You've encouraged me to keep at it - thanks!
Glad to be of service!
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>>> I won't leave them up long so let me know when you've looked them
>>> over?
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>>Done.
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>>They look pretty good particularly the one you labeled success. Though
>>its small (too little light and or too small pot). You won't get much,
>>but if you are patient, it looks like you should get some decent smoke
>>at the end.
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> Probably both - I think they are two gallon pots - again from my
> friend at the nursery. She gave me the bigger ones - no questions
> asked - whew.
Cool. well, definitely 2gals is the minimum.
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> I bought a couple of lights - but I need to find some curtains for
> the window so that the lights are not so obvious from outside. I have
> to buy a lot of dirt - and am wondering if I can lift the tubs once
> they're filled so I'd better have a plan - fun!
You can get potting soil for about 1$ a cubic foot. Nurseries have
bulk compost as well.
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>>Yeah, they look reasonably healthy otherwise. They will continue to
>>grow vegatatively until a few weeks into their flowering, then they
>>will produce only flowers till the end when they will stop doing even
>>that. You will know that is happening when the pretty white hairs have
>>all turned brown. (That marks a point in the cycle that is essentially
>>way late, people normally harvest when around half have turned brown,
>>and or no new ones are appearing.) Incidentally, the calyxes (the
>>little vaginas at the bottom of pairs of white hairs) will start to
>>swell significantly at (just prior to) this stage as well.
>>Particularly if they are well fed.
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> I gave them all plant sticks a couple of days ago - wow, right away
> they took off.
Yeah, I bet. That's cool. They obviously needed food...
>I still can't tell if the one is a boy or not - it's
> bigger than all the others but it's in a bigger tub. More photos
> today - I hate pulling up the boys :)
Yeah in a way I guess I understand. Just wait till you are sure I
guess.
> I printed your email so I'll
> remember what to look for. Right now, the buds are getting bigger so
> I'm going to wait some more - a month maybe then, try a bit again.
Yeah, they are definitely doing ok in terms of their development. Its
important that they get plenty of food particularly during the next
few weeks.
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>>Just remember that it will shrink to half its size or less and weigh
>>ten times less once dried. When they look fairly big on the plant,
>>they are still really small in reality. They need to look huge on the
>>plant to produce any decent bud size when dried. Though, you will get
>>whatever development you get, and the color and activity level will be
>>the indicators of completion. I only mention it for context. Patience
>>is the key to getting potent weed.
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> I'll bet I don't get much off of her.
Yeah, it will only be a few grams dried flowers, but its ok, you are
learning / improving. Next ones will get better.
>You're right about the pots and
> the lights. Do you think it will kill them to transplant them ( Won't
> mess with the flowering girl)?
Definitely don't mess with the ones that are flowering. The babies can
be safely transplanted. Just give them a little vitamin b1 afterwards.
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>>Yeah, and they are not even dry. Rather it is a few dry spots on a
>>couple of leaves. Still at least one of them was apparently damaged
>>physically. So, the dry spots may be the remnants of whatever injury
>>caused the truncated leaf.
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> I think it was the frost. I saw it on the tomatoes which survived
> alright, but I never thought of the plant inside getting too cold. It
> was a surprise that it got that cold in July but you never know about
> the weather here.
Yeah, I am pretty sure you are right.
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>>>>Ok, when you put it that way, I expect its just atrophy.
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>>>>>>>And stop fertilizing?
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>>>>>>Stop fertilizing hydro and start flushing about a week before they are
>>>>>>finished or as soon as you decide they are done. Stop fertilizing soil
>>>>>>earlier than hydro but still essentially at the end of the cycle when
>>>>>>floral development is slowing/stopping.
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>>> They're all in soil - hydro is one of those techie things :)
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>>Yeah, I saw, it will make things simpler. So, just stop feeding them
>>about 1-2 weeks before they are done or as soon as you know they are.
>>When its you first grow like this, you wont prolly know you know.. So
>>ideally you will be on the late side rather than the early. Just wait
>>till you are sure you they are done and then give them water only for
>>a few days to a week. If you have been using various fertilizers its
>>not a bad idea to give them a few days of flushing mid-cycle as well.
>>It will improve their ability to take up nutrients, often can
>>rejuvenate flowering, and generally improves the flavor of the final
>>product.
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> I'll keep this in mind. I'm not going to start any more plants with
> the seeds I have for a bit. Will try to get something new to play
> with soon as I'm working hard at this and would like better results.
> I'll keep you posted though.
Yeah, well the short list of issues:
1) 3-10 gallon pots
2) well draining potting soil/compost
3) plenty of light
Should not be that much work involved with what you are currently
doing. Most of its just the effort of the learning and getting
started. It gets easier and easier from here.
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>>Be patient. You are (it appears) ~4-6 or more weeks from done. If you
>>wait long enough, you should get a little bit of your own private
>>label...
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> LOL - I'm very much looking forward to it - and sure it won't last
> long so I have to keep going!
Yup. Though once you get a decent thing going, you will quickly end up
with more than you know what to do with. :) Yay that!
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> Thanks a abunch - you're a good guy.
A Shucks. You make me blush.
Love and Light
