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Author: Onideus Mad Hatter
Date: Sep 28, 2007 02:11

Okay, so here's the deal...I'm tired of the shitty user data tracking
stuff that my server comes with and so I want to make my own. Peachy.
I want to track the following variables:
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Author: Onideus Mad Hatter
Date: Sep 28, 2007 04:21

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:11:52 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter
backwater-productions.net> wrote:
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Author: Jerry Stuckle
Date: Sep 28, 2007 04:21

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> Okay, so here's the deal...I'm tired of the shitty user data tracking
> stuff that my server comes with and so I want to make my own. Peachy.
> I want to track the following variables:
>
> ip_address
> time
> day
> month
> year
> referring_url
> current_url
> language
> browser
> browser_version
> operating_system
> screen_width
> screen_height
> cookies_enabled
> java_enabled ...
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Author: Onideus Mad Hatter
Date: Sep 28, 2007 04:34

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:21:31 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
attglobal.net> wrote:
>As long as you know that many users (current estimate about 10%%) run
>with JS turned off. And even if it's on, anything supplied by the
>browser (i.e referer, browser/system info, etc.) is questionable.

Actually current estimates are below 4%% (and dropping 2%% every six
months) and really, none of my sites, like nearly EVERY site these
days will work without javascript. In some cases I'll have them
retard back to a plain text version of the site if
javascript/flash/etc has been disabled, but that's about all the
effort I'm willing to invest for the Amish of the Internet.

Essentially your concern is that people without computers won't be
able to see my site. And my response is, "No, really?! Who the fuck
woulda guessed?"

I mean you don't go bitching to a car manufacturer that his product
isn't going to sell very well to the Amish. Of course it's not gonna
fuckin sell to 'em, THEY'RE AMISH! What the fuck man, what are you
Captain Jesus Raping Obvious?

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Re: Coding Dilema         


Author: Jerry Stuckle
Date: Sep 28, 2007 05:22

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:21:31 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
> attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> As long as you know that many users (current estimate about 10%%) run
>> with JS turned off. And even if it's on, anything supplied by the
>> browser (i.e referer, browser/system info, etc.) is questionable.
>
> Actually current estimates are below 4%% (and dropping 2%% every six
> months) and really, none of my sites, like nearly EVERY site these
> days will work without javascript. In some cases I'll have them
> retard back to a plain text version of the site if
> javascript/flash/etc has been disabled, but that's about all the
> effort I'm willing to invest for the Amish of the Internet.
>

Not from any reliable source I've seen. 10%% and rising. Too many
popups and lots of other things. It's not the Amish - it's the smart
people who know how to turn off javascript who do it.
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Author: SpaceGirl
Date: Sep 28, 2007 05:32

On Sep 28, 1:22 pm, Jerry Stuckle attglobal.net> wrote:
> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:21:31 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
>> attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>> As long as you know that many users (current estimate about 10%%) run
>>> with JS turned off. And even if it's on, anything supplied by the
>>> browser (i.e referer, browser/system info, etc.) is questionable.
>
>> Actually current estimates are below 4%% (and dropping 2%% every six
>> months) and really, none of my sites, like nearly EVERY site these
>> days will work without javascript. In some cases I'll have them
>> retard back to a plain text version of the site if
>> javascript/flash/etc has been disabled, but that's about all the
>> effort I'm willing to invest for the Amish of the Internet.
>
> Not from any reliable source I've seen. 10%% and rising. Too many
> popups and lots of other things. It's not the Amish - it's the smart
> people who know how to turn off javascript who do it.
> ...
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Re: Coding Dilema         


Author: Tim Streater
Date: Sep 28, 2007 07:02

In article comcast.com>,
Jerry Stuckle attglobal.net> wrote:
> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:21:31 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
>> attglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> As long as you know that many users (current estimate about 10%%) run
...
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Re: Coding Dilema         


Author: Steve
Date: Sep 28, 2007 07:26

"Jerry Stuckle" attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:aZKdneyFD7odb2HbnZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:21:31 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
>> attglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> As long as you know that many users (current estimate about 10%%) run
>>> with JS turned off. And even if it's on, anything supplied by the
>>> browser (i.e referer, browser/system info, etc.) is questionable.

jerry,

fair warning...OMH is certifiably crazy. i am not exagerating. to respond
further only means he'll keep coming back to masturbate his enormous ego
with the hands of his own stupidity.

the guy is seriously into infinilism. google OMH...laugh at what you come up
with.
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Author: Steve
Date: Sep 28, 2007 07:29

"Tim Streater" dante.org.uk> wrote in message
news:tim.streater-D02A8E.15020728092007@news.individual.net...
> In article comcast.com>,
> Jerry Stuckle attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:21:31 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
>>> attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As long as you know that many users (current estimate about 10%%) run
>>>> with JS turned off. And even if it's on, anything supplied by the
>>>> browser (i.e referer, browser/system info, etc.) is questionable.
>>>
>>> Actually current estimates are below 4%% (and dropping 2%% every six
>>> months) and really, none of my sites, like nearly EVERY site these
>>> days will work without javascript. In some cases I'll have them
>>> retard back to a plain text version of the site if
>>> javascript/flash/etc has been disabled, but that's about all the
>>> effort I'm willing to invest for the Amish of the Internet.
>>> ...
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Re: Coding Dilema         


Author: Steve
Date: Sep 28, 2007 08:18

"Onideus Mad Hatter" backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
news:3fepf3ppd2ocihitku2q2afrtfl02p0l4h@4ax.com...
> Okay, so here's the deal...I'm tired of the shitty user data tracking
> stuff that my server comes with and so I want to make my own. Peachy.

ah matthew...i've enjoyed not seeing your posts for quite some time now.
how's walmart working out for you? busted for masturbating on the job yet? i
suppose they don't say much about the diapers for fear of a discrimination
law suit.

why not go find another suitable blog of your choosing and harrass them? we
both know you'll get banned in about a day, but hey, go have fun somewhere
else.

btw, is this all current and correct:

matthew moulton
sales@backwater-productions.net
anything@backwater-productions.net
phone: 1 509 301 4485
fax : 1 509 301 4485
313 south east j street, apt a
grants pass, or 97526
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