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Author: AthanasiusAthanasius Date: Jul 1, 2006 07:01
"The making an enemy a friend, will render God propitious and
favourable towards us, and will easily set us free from our sins."
Pope Shenouda III.
Pray for me as I pray for you.
Athanasius, dcn_athanasius@ REMOVEyahoo.com.au
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/a/Aus_Orthodox/
"If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
the world." St Athanasius the Apostolic, 20th Patriarch of Alexandria.
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Author: (: Lawrence Meckan :)(: Lawrence Meckan :) Date: Jul 1, 2006 19:06
Athanasius wrote:
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> "The making an enemy a friend, will render God propitious and
> favourable towards us, and will easily set us free from our sins."
> Pope Shenouda III.
What happens when the Coptic Church makes its friends into some form of
enemy to justify akribia ?
You still remain my friend, even though you treat me like an enemy (and
have said words to the effect that I am your enemy).
lawrence
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Author: 37503750 Date: Jul 5, 2006 19:56
That pope didn't know what he was talking about. Can you explain how
making an enemy a friend would make God propitious? It's easy to quote
a person but to demonstrate he is talking sense is another matter.
From all your quotes you seem to put people above God and His Word.
God is only propitiated by substitutionary the death of His Son, not
by the works of men.
On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 00:01:03 +1000, Athanasius
REMOVEyahoo.com.au> wrote:
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Author: AthanasiusAthanasius Date: Jul 5, 2006 20:12
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 02:56:49 GMT, 3750 werfer.com> wrote:
>That pope didn't know what he was talking about. Can you explain how
>making an enemy a friend would make God propitious?
For one we are commanded to do so by our Lord Jesus Christ in His
sermon on the Mountain. "Love your enemies. Do good to those who
despise you."
Also "Those who turn a sinner from his way saves a soul and covers a
multitude of sins."
There are many other examples from the Bible.
> It's easy to quote
>a person but to demonstrate he is talking sense is another matter.
It is never hard to demonstrate that this spiritual man talks sense.
>
>From all your quotes you seem to put people above God and His Word.
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Author: St Dog the WetSt Dog the Wet Date: Jul 5, 2006 20:59
3750 wrote:
> That pope didn't know what he was talking about. Can you explain how
> making an enemy a friend would make God propitious? It's easy to quote
> a person but to demonstrate he is talking sense is another matter.
>
> From all your quotes you seem to put people above God and His Word.
>
> God is only propitiated by substitutionary the death of His Son, not
> by the works of men.
>
> On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 00:01:03 +1000, Athanasius
> REMOVEyahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >>
>> "The making an enemy a friend, will render God propitious and
>> favourable towards us, and will easily set us free from our sins."
>> Pope Shenouda III.
>>
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Author: 37503750 Date: Jul 6, 2006 20:45
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:12:39 +1000, Athanasius
REMOVEyahoo.com.au> wrote:
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 02:56:49 GMT, 3750 werfer.com> wrote:
>>>That pope didn't know what he was talking about. Can you explain how
>>making an enemy a friend would make God propitious?
>
>For one we are commanded to do so by our Lord Jesus Christ in His
>sermon on the Mountain. "Love your enemies. Do good to those who
>despise you."
That does not propitiate God.
>
>Also "Those who turn a sinner from his way saves a soul and covers a
>multitude of sins."
That does not propitiate God.
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Author: AthanasiusAthanasius Date: Jul 6, 2006 21:40
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:45:22 GMT, 3750 werfer.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:12:39 +1000, Athanasius
> REMOVEyahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 02:56:49 GMT, 3750 werfer.com> wrote:
>>>>>That pope didn't know what he was talking about. Can you explain how
>>>making an enemy a friend would make God propitious?
>>
>>For one we are commanded to do so by our Lord Jesus Christ in His
>>sermon on the Mountain. "Love your enemies. Do good to those who
>>despise you."
>
>That does not propitiate God.
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Author: 37503750 Date: Jul 7, 2006 03:29
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:40:59 +1000, Athanasius
REMOVEyahoo.com.au> wrote:
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Author: AthanasiusAthanasius Date: Jul 7, 2006 16:06
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 10:29:04 GMT, 3750 werfer.com> wrote:
>>>That does not propitiate God.
>>
>>The failure to do so removes the propitiation of God obtained through
>>Christ.
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>You are very vague. Perhaps that is what you are hiding behind.
I am not hiding. here I am. :-)
>
>Propitiation cannot be removed, according to the Bible. You don't seem
>to understand what propitiation is.
Or: I understand the foundation you are utilizing and reject it for
the wrong that it assumes.
Since Christ took the sins of the whole world and since the whole
world is not saved, you might like to explain how the propitiation
still applies for those who are not saved?
>>sins being covered is indeed propitiation.
>
>Sins being covered is NOT propitiation, it is atonement.
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Author: AthanasiusAthanasius Date: Jul 7, 2006 16:33
On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:59:15 -0700, St Dog the Wet
yahoo.com> wrote:
>IMHO,
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