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Author: apap Date: Nov 27, 2006 07:45
Hello,
We have had a whirlpool gas range with electronic ignition. The range
is about 7 years old and gives us trouble sparking the pilot light. It
takes
a while to light up and there is some gas smell.
We are fairly heavy users of the stove and home cook all meals.
We are considering purchasing a new range. A few questions:
Some stores carry the older pilot light models (w/o the electronic
ignition).
Are these models better in terms of lighting up immediately?
Which models/brands do you recommend and have worked well for you?
Also, with gas ranges, do you occasionally smell gas and does your
pilot light ever
go out?
thank you!
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Author: Jerry AvinsJerry Avins Date: Nov 27, 2006 08:15
ap wrote:
> Hello,
> We have had a whirlpool gas range with electronic ignition. The range
> is about 7 years old and gives us trouble sparking the pilot light. It
> takes
> a while to light up and there is some gas smell.
>
> We are fairly heavy users of the stove and home cook all meals.
>
> We are considering purchasing a new range. A few questions:
>
> Some stores carry the older pilot light models (w/o the electronic
> ignition).
> Are these models better in terms of lighting up immediately?
>
> Which models/brands do you recommend and have worked well for you?
I have a Hardwick that is about 25 years old. I don't plan to replace it
anytime soon.
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Author: GaryGary Date: Nov 27, 2006 08:31
ap wrote:
>
> Hello,
> We have had a whirlpool gas range with electronic ignition. The range
> is about 7 years old and gives us trouble sparking the pilot light. It
> takes
> a while to light up and there is some gas smell.
>
> We are fairly heavy users of the stove and home cook all meals.
>
> We are considering purchasing a new range. A few questions:
>
> Some stores carry the older pilot light models (w/o the electronic
> ignition).
> Are these models better in terms of lighting up immediately?
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Author: GaryGary Date: Nov 27, 2006 08:54
Jerry Avins wrote:
>
> The
> natural gas now used is not the same as the coal gas that was once
> common. It contains no carbon monoxide at all.
Is that a fact? If so, why are "we" buying carbon monoxide detectors for the
house?
I just put a new battery in mine....my daughter left it here....since I got a
new gas furnace installed last summer, I wanted to get the detector working
before leaving the heat on overnight. I wasn't sure if it was safe (ie - vented
properly)
Anyway, I put in the new battery and it beeps 3 times every minute or so.
According to instructions, 3 beeps means "defective device" and time to replace
it. sigh!
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Author: ZilbandyZilbandy Date: Nov 27, 2006 09:30
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:54:41 GMT, Gary
wrote:
>> The
>> natural gas now used is not the same as the coal gas that was once
>> common. It contains no carbon monoxide at all.
>
>Is that a fact? If so, why are "we" buying carbon monoxide detectors for the
>house?
You need a carbon dioxide detector. Google tells me that natural gas,
CH4. when burned produces water and CO2. ::getting headache:: Ahhh,
memories of high school chemistry some 40 plus years ago. :)
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Author: Jerry AvinsJerry Avins Date: Nov 27, 2006 11:22
Gary wrote:
> Jerry Avins wrote:
>> The
>> natural gas now used is not the same as the coal gas that was once
>> common. It contains no carbon monoxide at all.
>
> Is that a fact? If so, why are "we" buying carbon monoxide detectors for the
> house?
Defective combustion (insufficient air) of gas, coal, and heating oil
can produce carbon monoxide, and defective flues or unvented appliances
can release it into the living quarters.
> I just put a new battery in mine....my daughter left it here....since I got a
> new gas furnace installed last summer, I wanted to get the detector working
> before leaving the heat on overnight. I wasn't sure if it was safe (ie - vented
> properly)
>
> Anyway, I put in the new battery and it beeps 3 times every minute or so.
> According to instructions, 3 beeps means "defective device" and time to replace
> it. sigh!
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Author: Jerry AvinsJerry Avins Date: Nov 27, 2006 11:32
Gary wrote:
...
> I also have gas heat and hot water, but because of the electronics, I lose
> those during power outages. My stove makes these times a lot easier to deal
> with.
I haven't looked lately, but I never saw a gas water heater* with
electric ignition. Why would anyone bother? the heat from the pilot
maintains the temperature when water isn't being used. Does your burner
cycle on and off during long periods of non use?
...
Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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Author: GaryGary Date: Nov 28, 2006 08:20
Jerry Avins wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
>> Jerry Avins wrote:
>>> The
>>> natural gas now used is not the same as the coal gas that was once
>>> common. It contains no carbon monoxide at all.
>>
>> Is that a fact? If so, why are "we" buying carbon monoxide detectors for the
>> house?
>
> Defective combustion (insufficient air) of gas, coal, and heating oil
> can produce carbon monoxide, and defective flues or unvented appliances
> can release it into the living quarters.
When you turn on your oven and gas dryer for heat, do you open a window? (I
hope) I'll bake something in the oven but have been afraid to just turn it on
with door open and leave it on for any length of time.
> Try reseating the battery. There's an off chance the "new" battery was
> old, and dirty contacts can imitate that.
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Author: GaryGary Date: Nov 28, 2006 08:26
Jerry Avins wrote:
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> Gary wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> I also have gas heat and hot water, but because of the electronics, I lose
>> those during power outages. My stove makes these times a lot easier to deal
>> with.
>
> I haven't looked lately, but I never saw a gas water heater* with
> electric ignition. Why would anyone bother? the heat from the pilot
> maintains the temperature when water isn't being used. Does your burner
> cycle on and off during long periods of non use?
My mistake there saying "electronics" instead of electricity required. My gas
water heater does have a pilot light that stays on but without electricity, the
thermostat won't work so hot water runs out quickly.
Same deal with the furnace....no electricity, no thermostat working....no heat.
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Author: Jerry AvinsJerry Avins Date: Nov 28, 2006 08:46
Gary wrote:
> Jerry Avins wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Jerry Avins wrote:
>>>> The
>>>> natural gas now used is not the same as the coal gas that was once
>>>> common. It contains no carbon monoxide at all.
>>> Is that a fact? If so, why are "we" buying carbon monoxide detectors for the
>>> house?
>> Defective combustion (insufficient air) of gas, coal, and heating oil
>> can produce carbon monoxide, and defective flues or unvented appliances
>> can release it into the living quarters.
>
> When you turn on your oven and gas dryer for heat, do you open a window? (I
> hope) I'll bake something in the oven but have been afraid to just turn it on
> with door open and leave it on for any length of time.
In the house, the CO levels near the range rarely reach a quarter of the
"safe" level even with no open window. (One of my CO detectors has a
readout in ppm.) In my camper, the alarm goes off.
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