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Re: Chinese food vs Japanese food         


Author: Musashi
Date: Nov 23, 2006 20:55

"ian" cox.net> wrote in message
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> RichAsianKid wrote:
>> A few random thoughts here.
>>
>> First there is presentation. When you start deliberately mixing food
>> together on the table - haha how can you call it an 'art' with
>> those bibimbap or something, in a charred stone bowl or all that lo
>> mein on a sizzling plate? One of the hallmarks of haute cuisine is its
>> emphasis on preparation or presentation technique -not how you
>> reproduce your stomach contents for public view! In fact in haute
>> cuisine often different ingredients are cooked separately to the right
>> degree of 'ripeness' and then mixed together, hence the
>> extraordinary amount of time needed for preparation. Bento boxes -
>> and these are considered cheap Japanese - like 'rice boxes' -
>> nonetheless preserve or at least pretend to preserve this quality.
>> Koreans and the Chinese do not. Else you may as well go for an infant
>> diet or a pureed diet for old people. The fact that everyone digs into
>> a public plate in the case of Chinese - thus sometimes without a pair
>> of public utensil (i.e. chopstick) is yet another 'low class' sign ...
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Re: Chinese food vs Japanese food         


Author: Gerry
Date: Nov 24, 2006 00:13

On 2006-11-23 20:55:11 -0800, "Musashi" Hosokawa.co.jp> said:
> Increasing respect? Or merely increasing expoloitation of a clientele who
> really have no idea what good or bad Chinese food is?

Beats chop suey in one of those joints that serve really bad 1960's
style "Chinese" food. There all over middle America.
> I ate at a PF Chang's. Once. Won't happen again.

I'll echo that. Well, I'll probably eat there again when I'm a
minority in the dining selection crew, but I thought it a lot of
blabber and expense for relatively little. It is to Chinese food what
the Olive Garden is to Italian: formulaic, consistent/predictable and
overpriced.
> On a par with eating sushi at a Todai.

I'm not a fan of the sushi at Todai, the rest of the stuff can good to
very good. But it's an unfair comparison. Todai isn't really ABOUT
sushi, do you think? I don't know, maybe it is. But it certainly
isn't a formulae chain approach to sushi.
> So far I haven't run into "bad" Korean food which makes me happy.

Once they get the Korean BBQ thing down they'll probably have an equivalent.
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Re: Chinese food vs Japanese food         


Author: Mike Tommasi
Date: Nov 24, 2006 01:42

Gerry wrote:
> On 2006-11-23 20:55:11 -0800, "Musashi" Hosokawa.co.jp> said:
>
>> I ate at a PF Chang's. Once. Won't happen again.
>
> I'll echo that. [snip] It is to Chinese food what the Olive
> Garden is to Italian: formulaic, consistent/predictable and overpriced.

I was brought to the one in La Jolla several times and found it
singularly boring.
>> On a par with eating sushi at a Todai.

Don't eat Todai what you can save as leftovers for Tomoro

(ancient chinese proverb) (or is it japanese?)

--
Mike Tommasi - Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail
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Re: Chinese food vs Japanese food         


Author: ian
Date: Nov 24, 2006 09:27

Musashi wrote:
> "ian" cox.net> wrote in message
> news:Scu9h.3128$hz3.1890@newsfe21.lga...
>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>> A few random thoughts here.
>>>
>>> First there is presentation. When you start deliberately mixing food
>>> together on the table - haha how can you call it an 'art' with
>>> those bibimbap or something, in a charred stone bowl or all that lo
>>> mein on a sizzling plate? One of the hallmarks of haute cuisine is its
>>> emphasis on preparation or presentation technique -not how you
>>> reproduce your stomach contents for public view! In fact in haute
>>> cuisine often different ingredients are cooked separately to the right
>>> degree of 'ripeness' and then mixed together, hence the
>>> extraordinary amount of time needed for preparation. Bento boxes -
>>> and these are considered cheap Japanese - like 'rice boxes' -
>>> nonetheless preserve or at least pretend to preserve this quality.
>>> Koreans and the Chinese do not. Else you may as well go for an infant
>>> diet or a pureed diet for old people. The fact that everyone digs into
>>> a public plate in the case of Chinese - thus sometimes without a pair ...
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Re: Chinese food vs Japanese food         


Author: Howard Johnson
Date: Nov 24, 2006 11:17

I lived in San Antonio during most of the mid-80's - I miss that food so
much. Crab to perfection. Back when the Gulf Coast had a decent
fishery. There is a great Cambodian restaurant in my town now, but it
is on the other side of the city and I rarely get to it.

Gerry wrote:
> I note in the paper that the originator of the Chowhounds web page, now
> sold to CNet is taking a cross-country dining tour and shares and
> interesting observation. All towns seem to have a Vietnamese restaurant
> now. Doesn't surprise me in the least. I predicted it 20 years ago.
> Americans love noodles, chicken soup, egg rolls, and much of the rest of
> a straight-up-the-middle Vietnamese restaurant.
>
> I expect a one-size-fits-all chain to emerge soon.
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