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Author: Barry's LeftnutBarry's Leftnut Date: Jun 28, 2007 17:41
On 2007-06-26 01:11:22 -0400, schoenfeld.one@ gmail.com said:
> WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition
> By Herman Schoenfeld
>
No matter how many times you fucktards post this shit it's STILL shit.
Get a fucking life.
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Author: HenryHenry Date: Jul 7, 2007 14:47
John P. wrote:
> "Henry" treason.gov> wrote in a message
>> Small random fires can't possibly make a steel framed building
>> do that. Not even a raging inferno can cause a steel building to
>> do anything even remotely close to that. Only a very well executed
>> controlled demolition can cause the total, instant, and symmetric
>> failure of all steel support columns that took place in WTC7.
>> That was very solidly braced and virtually undamaged steel frame.
>> It was dramatically over engineered to withstand hurricane force
>> winds and mild earth quakes. Look at the still photos at 1 second
>> intervals. The building stays perfectly straight and level all the
>> way down. Every one of the 58 steel perimeter columns failed at
>> exactly the same time, and they all failed totally, putting up
> Poor Chuckles... still hasn't bothered to look into any of the actual facts
> of the building design.
Which facts are you disputing, Johnny? Can you get some
help and try to put your "thoughts" into coherent words - or
not....?
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Author: HenryHenry Date: Jul 7, 2007 14:47
> On Jul 4, 1:59 pm, Henry treason.gov> wrote:
>> Twin Towers:
>> The massive reserve strength designed into the steel frames of
>> the towers could not possibly have been overcome by the force
>> of gravity alone. The fact that it was exceeded to such an
>> extreme degree that the undamaged steel frame offered no
>> measurable resistance, proves conclusively that the lower
>> structures were destroyed before being impacted by the upper
>> structures.
> How much resistance would they provide if they weren't artificially
> destroyed?
> This is the question I never see answered. How would they behave if
> they collapsed as they are supposed to have?
They couldn't have collapsed under the weight of the top
twenty stories at all. That theoyr is as absurd as it is
impossible. Read Gordon Ross' papers on this page:
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
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Date: Jul 7, 2007 20:39
On Jul 8, 9:47 am, Henry treason.gov> wrote:
>> This is the question I never see answered. How would they behave if
>> they collapsed as they are supposed to have?
>
> They couldn't have collapsed under the weight of the top
> twenty stories at all. That theoyr is as absurd as it is
> impossible. Read Gordon Ross' papers on this page:
I just read one of them. He says the energy from the first impact
would be distributed over several floors.
It seems to me that this is quite different from a car crash, in that
once a floor absorbs any energy at all, it will fail completely - in
other words you wouldn't find a floor reduced to half its original
height, and still being held up by buckled supports. Do you suppose
that as soon as the second floor began to fail (whether that was below
or above the initially failing floor), it stopped the deceleration and
therefore stopped any more energy being transmitted to other floors
while the top section continued to fall?
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Date: Jul 11, 2007 17:31
> On Jul 8, 9:47 am, Henry treason.gov> wrote:
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>>> This is the question I never see answered. How would they behave if
>>> they collapsed as they are supposed to have?
>
>> They couldn't have collapsed under the weight of the top
>> twenty stories at all. That theoyr is as absurd as it is
>> impossible. Read Gordon Ross' papers on this page:
>
> I just read one of them. He says the energy from the first impact
> would be distributed over several floors.
>
> It seems to me that this is quite different from a car crash, in that
> once a floor absorbs any energy at all, it will fail completely - in
> other words you wouldn't find a floor reduced to half its original
> height, and still being held up by buckled supports. Do you suppose
> that as soon as the second floor began to fail (whether that was below
> or above the initially failing floor), it stopped the deceleration and
> therefore stopped any more energy being transmitted to other floors ...
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Author: Rob KleinschmidtRob Kleinschmidt Date: Jul 11, 2007 18:39
> Have you ever seen any non-WTC building completely collapse, for any
> reason besides controlled demolition? Do you have any idea how it
> might fall?
How about
http://tinyurl.com/ywg6pa
6/14/2007
"High-Rise Office Building in Downtown Madrid, Spain
Engulfed by Flames, Top Floors Collapse".
You can also google any number of "soft story"
earthquake pictures.
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Author: HenryHenry Date: Jul 12, 2007 16:56
Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
>> Have you ever seen any non-WTC building completely collapse, for any
>> reason besides controlled demolition? Do you have any idea how it
>> might fall?
> How about
> 6/14/2007
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Author: HenryHenry Date: Jul 12, 2007 17:05
> On Jul 8, 9:47 am, Henry treason.gov> wrote:
>>> This is the question I never see answered. How would they behave if
>>> they collapsed as they are supposed to have?
>> They couldn't have collapsed under the weight of the top
>> twenty stories at all. That theory is as absurd as it is
>> impossible. Read Gordon Ross' papers on this page:
> I just read one of them. He says the energy from the first impact
> would be distributed over several floors.
And he is giving the benefit of the doubt to the official
conspiracy theory by accepting its absurd claim that the upper
block was in free fall for a distance of two stories. Of course,
that's not what...
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Author: Rob KleinschmidtRob Kleinschmidt Date: Jul 12, 2007 17:27
On Jul 12, 4:56 pm, Henry bush.gov> wrote:
> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
>>> Have you ever seen any non-WTC building completely collapse, for any
>>> reason besides controlled demolition? Do you have any idea how it
>>> might fall?
>
> So, in RobWorld, the building in the photo below has
> completely collapsed, eh?
They said the upper floors collapsed. Take a minute to
look and you will see the beams have sagged considerably.
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Author: Rob KleinschmidtRob Kleinschmidt Date: Jul 12, 2007 18:57
On Jul 12, 4:56 pm, Henry bush.gov> wrote:
> Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
> to raging infernos for hours on end.
>
> http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
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> On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
> had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
> at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
> demolition.
A couple of good quotes from the recent Madrid fire.
You should inform the Madrid fire department of how
foolish they were being when they worried about a
total collapse.
Earlier in the day, several top floors collapsed onto
lower ones. Firefighter official Fernando Munilla said
the entire building _ which at about 106 meters (350 feet)
high is among the 10 tallest in Madrid _ could collapse.
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