On Dec 25, 10:13 am, "Seon Ferguson" gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 24, 8:24 pm, Snowman zoomnet.net> wrote:
>>> On Dec 24, 4:24 am, "Seon Ferguson" gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Snowman" zoomnet.net> wrote in message
>>>>> "This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no
>>>>> religion in it" John Adams
>>>>> Thanks to Religulous for providing the inspiration to post this.
>>>>> Did it also provide the inspiration to something so far out of
>>>>> as to be deceptive?
>>>> Can't bare the thought that your countries founding fathers were sane
>>>> rational men can you?
>>> Of course I can.
>>> Here's what Adams REALLY said:
>>> "Twenty times in the course of my late reading have I been on the
>>> point of breaking out,
>>> "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no
>>> religion in it!!!"
>>> But in this exclamation I would have been as fanatical as Bryant or
>>> Without religion this world would be something not fit to be
>>> mentioned in polite company, I mean hell."
>> And Adams really was the joker in the deck. He was raised in a very
>> religious household and while his religious views waned during the
>> midpoint of his life, in his later days he went back to his very
>> conservative Christian beliefs. He at one point even sent a letter on
>> the subject to his friend Jefferson who referred to them as "Calvinist
>> Jefferson was a Deist and like nearly all Deists, did not accept the
>> divinity of Jesus. He even "wrote" his own version of the NT,
>> removing all the supernatural events attributed to Jesus.
>> The majority of the Founding Fathers were not Christian, despite the
>> claims to the contrary of revisionist fundamentalists. They were
>> Deists like Jefferson.
> Yet people still hold onto the lie that America is a Christian nation. So
People are basically lazy and believe what they are told without
bothering to do their own research. They do it with their religious
beliefs, congregation sitting below while someone stands in the pulpit
to tell them what the bible says and what it means.
They do it with historical revisionism, with fundamentalists/
evangelicals claiming a revised American history and they never check.
I had the same discussion with a friend here in my office just two
days ago, his repeating the lie that we are a Christian nation, but
having not a shred of evidence to support his case. But then, he also
claimed that marriage was defined as a man and a woman in the US
Constitution until I challenged him to prove it. He didn't know what
he was talking about and finally backed down when he had to back up