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Author: Bob WhitesideBob Whiteside
Date: Jan 9, 2007 23:13
"Chris" juno.com> wrote in message
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> "Bob Whiteside" teleport.com> wrote in message
> news:XNSdnfmpaag6xTnYnZ2dnUVZ_uOmnZ2d@giganews.com...>>
>> "John Meyer" gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5-idndGOQeAR1znYnZ2dnUVZ_rKvnZ2d@comcast.com...>>> One thing, and I don't doubt your case, but isn't the right to a
public
>>> attorney denied in CIVIL contempt cases? Criminal contempt charges,
>>> they have that right, because they are a crime in the ordinary sense.
>>> But aside from that you have a court who's apparently been crushing up
>>> sleeping pills and snorting them because first off, they find the
person
>>> indigent and then appoint him counsel, then they say he's guilty of
>>> contempt (willfully non-paying child support). That's kind of like
>>> giving a person artificial legs for a trial then finding him guilty of
>>> fleeing the scene of an accident.
>> ...
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Author: DBDB
Date: Jan 9, 2007 20:56
"Bob Whiteside" teleport.com> wrote in
> I sat in on a court proceeding where a fellow CS activist was represented
> by
> a public defender. I was really impressed with how the public defender
> handled the case. He was on his feet about...
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Author: ChrisChris
Date: Jan 9, 2007 20:27
"Bob Whiteside" teleport.com> wrote in message
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> "John Meyer" gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5-idndGOQeAR1znYnZ2dnUVZ_rKvnZ2d@comcast.com...>> One thing, and I don't doubt your case, but isn't the right to a public
>> attorney denied in CIVIL contempt cases? Criminal contempt charges,
>> they have that right, because they are a crime in the ordinary sense.
>> But aside from that you have a court who's apparently been crushing up
>> sleeping pills and snorting them because first off, they find the person
>> indigent and then appoint him counsel, then they say he's guilty of
>> contempt (willfully non-paying child support). That's kind of like
>> giving a person artificial legs for a trial then finding him guilty of
>> fleeing the scene of an accident.
>
> The right to an attorney is a due process step when the potential penalty
is
> jail time. Even when there is possible jail time there is no right to a
> jury trial.
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Author: John MeyerJohn Meyer
Date: Jan 9, 2007 18:08
One thing, and I don't doubt your case, but isn't the right to a public
attorney denied in CIVIL contempt cases? Criminal contempt charges,
they have that right, because they are a crime in the ordinary sense.
But aside from that you have a court who's apparently been crushing up
sleeping pills and snorting them because first off, they find the person
indigent and then appoint him counsel, then they say he's guilty of
contempt (willfully non-paying child support). That's kind of like
giving a person artificial legs for a trial then finding him guilty of
fleeing the scene of an accident.
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Author: John MeyerJohn Meyer
Date: Jan 9, 2007 17:59
DB wrote:
> "Henry" nospam.com> wrote in
> >> Finally, men don't complain. They just suffer in silence. I mean, it is
>> all for the CHILDREN. Right?
>
> Yep, that's the mantra they use to justify all this stupidity!
>
>
Maybe it's just me, but when the Iraqis put women and children in front
of them, we called it "human shields" and that's a war crime last I checked.
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Author: ecowboyecowboy
Date: Jan 9, 2007 16:20
I have a 3 year old daughter whose mother is dual diagnosed bipolar and
alcoholic. I have been the primary parent since she was born. Recently
CPS steped in due to her drinking habbits and court ordered her to a
rehab center untill her last child was born. (not mine). This is the
latest in a long history of rehab centers and programs. Now she is out
and has had at least one relapse. I am now noticing some of the minor
bipolar behaviors starting to show up again. CPS wants to move towards
a biweekly schedule. I understand the need for children needing to
spend time with bolth parents but I am fearing that they are pushing
way to hard and will end up undoing the work thet they have done and
cause some issues with my daughter and with her other children.
Does any one know of any resources that could help my daughter and me
deal with all of this?
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Author: ecowboyecowboy
Date: Jan 9, 2007 15:59
> CPS had told me that if my ex was to be given custody that the children
> would be removed from her and placed in my care under a "protection order"
> till they could contact the FOC to get it straitened out
Be carefull of protective orders. CPS put my daugter under a protective
order due to her mothers activities. Now they want to put our daughter
back in her care. She is dual diagnosed (bipolar and alcoholic) and had
only been out of treatment for a short period of time. I have been the
one taking care of her since she was born, she is 3 now.
I know that protective orders can be usefull but make sure you stay in
very close contact with CPS.
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