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Author: BruceRBruceR Date: Sep 20, 2007 00:35
Oxford wrote:
> "IMHO IIRC" wrote:
>
>>> Ah, so the flaw is thinking that a thousand times more WiFi towers
>>> is less expensive to deploy than cell towers.
>>
>> But according to Oxford WiFi is available everywhere already -
>> EXCEPT where you and I are.
>
> if you live in a poor area, just MOVE... there is no reason for you to
> lower your standard of life just to be out of range of free WiFi
> service...
>
> you'll have it in time of course, but most Mac users have free service
> now. they don't put up with poor living standards, thus don't deal
> with the "old world" you seem to be living in.
>
> -
Hmm, now I'm confused. Let's see, the cheapest house on my street is a
tear down listed at $4.5 million but I live in a "poor area" because we ...
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Author: Peter HayesPeter Hayes Date: Sep 20, 2007 01:26
Hertz_Donut outhere.net> wrote:
> Anyone caught surfing the web, downloading, etc while driveling should have
> a minimum one year license suspension.
Boring other people by driveling into a mobile phone isn't sufficiently
dangerous to warrant a minimum one year licence suspension... :-)
But using a mobile while driving in the UK gets you a £60 ($120) fine
and three penalty points.
--
Immunity is better than innoculation.
Peter
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Author: BruceRBruceR Date: Sep 20, 2007 11:01
Oxford wrote:
> "BruceR" NOgmailSPAM.com> wrote:
>>> I carry an extra battery for my phone and an extra battery for my MP3
>> player and an extra battery for my camera. The way I travel I use
>> those extra batteries frequently. Am I part of 1%% or 50%%? Neither
>> you or I know but at least for ME - I won't consider a "sealed
>> battery" product. If Apple solved that and offered the phone through
>> TMo, I might consider it, but based on my service experience with an
>> Apple Mini I'd be very wary.
>
> then get an extra battery for your iphone / ipod. lots of companies
> make them. and the mini? service experience? those machines are easy
> to open and work on.
>
> sounds like you aren't educated on how Apple products operate.
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Author: Todd AllcockTodd Allcock Date: Sep 20, 2007 12:15
> It's not cities stepping away, it's they're contractor Earthlink now
> teetering on the brink of bankruptcy that can't afford to meet its
> committments to build WiFi systems for these cities.
Is Google "teetering on the brink of bankruptcy" as well? Is AT&T?
These companies are also involved in muni-WiFi plans that have halted
as well.
It's a neat idea- except for the part where no one has figured out
how to pay for it or make any money from it...
--
"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003
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Author: karlkrandallkarlkrandall Date: Sep 20, 2007 13:29
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:15:39 -0600, Todd Allcock
AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>> It's not cities stepping away, it's they're contractor Earthlink now
>> teetering on the brink of bankruptcy that can't afford to meet its
>> committments to build WiFi systems for these cities.
>
>Is Google "teetering on the brink of bankruptcy" as well? Is AT&T?
>These companies are also involved in muni-WiFi plans that have halted
>as well.
DUh - AT&T has 10,000 WiFi Hot Spots in the United States.
Doesn't sound like they've abandoned it.
>
>It's a neat idea- except for the part where no one has figured out
>how to pay for it or make any money from it...
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Author: kdtkdt Date: Sep 20, 2007 15:19
> Yeah that's going to work. Carry an extra battery. If doing that, You
> better carry a soldering iron, pry tools, solder, etc.
You need a soldering iron to connect a battery pack to the dock connector?
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Author: Todd AllcockTodd Allcock Date: Sep 20, 2007 15:22
> DUh - AT&T has 10,000 WiFi Hot Spots in the United States.
> Doesn't sound like they've abandoned it.
"Duh?" Always the wordsmith, eh, Phillipe?
Those "10,000 hotspots" are subscription-based, isolated, individual
hotspots similar to T-Mobile's Hotspot WiFi network- not a muni-WiFi
"mesh" network with continuous coverage. Hardly the same thing!
Like T-Mobile's or Boingo's networks, AT&T uses it in an attempt to
make a profit, and DOESN'T try to blanket entire areas- they
cherrypick airports, restaurants, hotels, etc. and sell access by the
hour, day, month, etc.
So, in conclusion, "duh" yourself- what does AT&T's hotspot network
have to do with the failure of muni-WiFi projects getting off the
ground (like AT&T pulling out of the Springfield, Il project?)
--
"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003
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Author: ScottScott Date: Sep 20, 2007 15:49
> "IMHO IIRC" wrote:
>
>>> Ah, so the flaw is thinking that a thousand times more WiFi towers
>>> is less expensive to deploy than cell towers.
>>
>> But according to Oxford WiFi is available everywhere already - EXCEPT
>> where you and I are.
>
> if you live in a poor area, just MOVE... there is no reason for you to
> lower your standard of life just to be out of range of free WiFi
> service...
>
> you'll have it in time of course,
Not in Chicago, San Francisoc or Colorado Springs, to name a few. And
look- those three cities hardly qualify as a "poor area."
> but most Mac users have free service
> now.
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Author: DTCDTC Date: Sep 20, 2007 15:53
Oxford wrote:
> I'm never "silent" I just choose to shine a bright light
You mean you shine darkness?
> where ignorance is common place.
Kettle - Black
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Author: ScottScott Date: Sep 20, 2007 16:00
> "IMHO IIRC" wrote:
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>> Sounds like Cable internet, Satalite internet, and dialup internet
>> are also in trouble.
>> Why would anyone pay when they can just use FREE WiFi to surf the
>> net.
>>
>> No Internet bills and no cell phone bills - Just FREE WiFi - Can
>> hardly wait. :D
>
> good IMHO, it sounds like you are starting to figure out what I'm
> saying... "distributed" WiFi is the future...
Not in Chicage, San Francisco or Colorado Springs, just to name a few.
In fact, the call for free wifi has become a mere whisper. Stop living
in the past and join the real world.
> where nobody contributes
> more than $5 a month for full access.
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