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Author: OxfordOxford Date: Sep 18, 2007 14:47
Looks like the slow 3G network died a terrible death today. Jobs said
it's a "power hog", so basically that's the end of the 3G approach for
all cellphone companies worldwide going forward.
Just like I thought, WiFi is going to rule the airwaves, not 3G.
That is...
Unless 3.5G / 4G, gets MUCH better about power consumption or Jobs will
simply put them ALL out of business. Take your pick!
Cell companies are very inefficient, they've never had the competitive
envirnoment that the computer industry has known, so Jobs and Co will
steamroll them unless they get their act together soon.
Companies that don't hold iPhone contracts are basically dead in the
water at this point, especially now that 3G has been rendered obsolete.
Cellphone companies are going to have to scramble to catch up with what
Apple is delivering today. Everything is going EVDO or WiFi, so it was
good that the US never got stuck with old fashioned 3G like Europe did.
The iPhone gets around 6 hours of talk time, 10-40 hours of normal use.
200 hours of standby. 3G would cut that in half. No thanks!
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Author: FranksterFrankster Date: Sep 18, 2007 15:06
> Companies that don't hold iPhone contracts are basically dead in the
> water at this point, especially now that 3G has been rendered obsolete.
> Cellphone companies are going to have to scramble to catch up with what
> Apple is delivering today. Everything is going EVDO or WiFi, so it was
> good that the US never got stuck with old fashioned 3G like Europe did.
EVDO *is* a 3G standard, you nitwit! And Jobs doesn't control the
cell-phone market (big surprise for you I'm sure!).
-Frank
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Author: eded Date: Sep 18, 2007 15:24
On Sep 18, 2:47 pm, Oxford mac.com> wrote:
> Cellphone companies are going to have to scramble to catch up with what
> Apple is delivering today. Everything is going EVDO or WiFi, so it was
> good that the US never got stuck with old fashioned 3G like Europe
so... 3g sucks, and evdo is good, eh oxford? hahahahaaaaaa!
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Author: karlkrandallkarlkrandall Date: Sep 18, 2007 16:20
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:47:52 -0600, Oxford mac.com>
wrote:
>Looks like the slow 3G network died a terrible death today. Jobs said
>it's a "power hog", so basically that's the end of the 3G approach for
>all cellphone companies worldwide going forward.
>
>Just like I thought, WiFi is going to rule the airwaves, not 3G.
>
>That is...
>
>Unless 3.5G / 4G, gets MUCH better about power consumption or Jobs will
>simply put them ALL out of business. Take your pick!
>
Likely very true. WiFi availability is rapidly expanding, and WiMax
will soon be upon us, meanwhile in Houston, TX ATT 3G is like Swiss
Cheese, hardly better than WiFi, despite maps showing otherwise.
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Author: John C. RandolphJohn C. Randolph Date: Sep 18, 2007 16:34
On 2007-09-18 14:47:52 -0700, Oxford mac.com> said:
> Looks like the slow 3G network died a terrible death today. Jobs said
> it's a "power hog", so basically that's the end of the 3G approach for
> all cellphone companies worldwide going forward.
No, he said that *today's* 3G chipsets are power hogs, which they are.
Check again in six months. The first generation of 802.11 chips drew
a lot more power than today's equivalents do.
-jcr
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Author: JohnJohn Date: Sep 18, 2007 17:36
Oxford wrote:
> Looks like the slow 3G network died a terrible death today. Jobs said
> it's a "power hog", so basically that's the end of the 3G approach for
> all cellphone companies worldwide going forward.
>
> Just like I thought, WiFi is going to rule the airwaves, not 3G.
>
> That is...
>
> Unless 3.5G / 4G, gets MUCH better about power consumption or Jobs will
> simply put them ALL out of business. Take your pick!
>
> Cell companies are very inefficient, they've never had the competitive
> envirnoment that the computer industry has known, so Jobs and Co will
> steamroll them unless they get their act together soon.
>
> Companies that don't hold iPhone contracts are basically dead in the
> water at this point, especially now that 3G has been rendered obsolete.
> Cellphone companies are going to have to scramble to catch up with what
> Apple is delivering today. Everything is going EVDO or WiFi, so it was ...
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Author: OxfordOxford Date: Sep 18, 2007 17:37
"Frankster" SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote:
>> Companies that don't hold iPhone contracts are basically dead in the
>> water at this point, especially now that 3G has been rendered obsolete.
>> Cellphone companies are going to have to scramble to catch up with what
>> Apple is delivering today. Everything is going EVDO or WiFi, so it was
>> good that the US never got stuck with old fashioned 3G like Europe did.
>
> EVDO *is* a 3G standard, you nitwit! And Jobs doesn't control the
> cell-phone market (big surprise for you I'm sure!).
But it is part of CDMA2000, which doesn't suck power as badly as 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDMA2000
Ah, guess you didn't get the memo, Job now controls the upper portion of
the Cellphone Industry. He'll work his way down over the coming years to
control most of the industry, so everyone better shape up or ship out.
There really isn't any other choice for cell companies at this point.
It sounds like Frankster doesn't know how all this works...
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Author: OxfordOxford Date: Sep 18, 2007 17:40
John C. Randolph nospam.mac.com> wrote:
>> Looks like the slow 3G network died a terrible death today. Jobs said
>> it's a "power hog", so basically that's the end of the 3G approach for
>> all cellphone companies worldwide going forward.
>
> No, he said that *today's* 3G chipsets are power hogs, which they are.
> Check again in six months. The first generation of 802.11 chips drew
> a lot more power than today's equivalents do.
Yes, and if the 3G group can rise to meet Steve's challenge they have a
chance, but if not, they will be superseded. There is no reason a faster
protocol needs to be power hungry, it's poor chip design that's all.
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Author: OxfordOxford Date: Sep 18, 2007 17:43
>>Unless 3.5G / 4G, gets MUCH better about power consumption or Jobs will
>>simply put them ALL out of business. Take your pick!
>>
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> Likely very true. WiFi availability is rapidly expanding, and WiMax
> will soon be upon us, meanwhile in Houston, TX ATT 3G is like Swiss
> Cheese, hardly better than WiFi, despite maps showing otherwise.
yes, the cell industry is in a state of "collapse", there is no way they
can compete against the iPhone AND free / or closed WiFi. "the internet"
is the network, not some proprietary format that is decades old.
cell networks = punch cards
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