> "Oxford" wrote:
>
> (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
>
> ISuppli reiterated its forecast that Apple would sell 4.5 million
> iPhones this year, rising to more than 30 million in 2011.
>
> The two models of the iPhone on the market sold more than Research in
> Motion's Blackberry series, the entire Palm portfolio and any individual
> smartphone model from Motorola, Nokia or Samsung.
>
> ISuppli classifies the iPhone as a crossover phone that competes with
> both smartphones, which have personal computer-like functions such as
> e-mail, and feature phones, which have extras such as cameras and music
> players.
>
> "While iSuppli has not collected historical information on this topic,
> it's likely that the speed of the iPhone's rise to competitive dominance ...

>> "While iSuppli has not collected historical information on this topic,
>> it's likely that the speed of the iPhone's rise to competitive dominance
>> in its segment is unprecedented in the history of the mobile-handset
>> market," iSuppli said.
>>
>> "Apple achieved this in the face of numerous, well-entrenched
>> competitors."

>
> What a crock. Those reporters need to find another job and quit lying and
> shilling for Apple. I especially like the fact they admit "they (i.e.
> iSuppli) have not collected historical information on this topic" too.
>
> The Nokia 1100 was the best selling phone of all time at 200 MILLION units.

> That's more than twice the number of iPods and Playstation 2 units sold
> combined - and then some.

> but the nokia 1100 isn't in the same league as the iPhone, you are
> talking about a cheap "cell phone" compared to a full featured
> "smartphone".

> but that was a cheap, throw away cell phone while the iPhone is more
> like a tiny laptop.
>

> No it's not. A tiny laptop runs any program its operating system
> supports and has STORAGE to put things in. The iPhone has neither, ON
> PURPOSE, so you are totally dependent on the SUPPLIER who you must be
> constantly tethered to, and paying of course, to make it functional.

> Notice its firewire/USB ports to tie the external hard drive to so you
> can onload/offload data/pictures/movies/stuff to/from? NOT! A tiny
> laptop has plenty of ports to offload/onload with.

> iPhone is a Blackberry with a touch screen.....SERVER based to make the
> carrier money.....

>> but the nokia 1100 isn't in the same league as the iPhone, you are
>> talking about a cheap "cell phone" compared to a full featured
>> "smartphone".

>
> Except the iPhone ISN'T a smartphone.

> Larry home.com> wrote:
>

>> No it's not. A tiny laptop runs any program its operating system
>> supports and has STORAGE to put things in. The iPhone has neither, ON
>> PURPOSE, so you are totally dependent on the SUPPLIER who you must be
>> constantly tethered to, and paying of course, to make it functional.

>
> are we talking about 2 different iPhones? Mine has 8GB of storage and I
> can store all kinda of information in there. notes, emails, webpages,
> maps, phone numbers, voice mail, addressbook, stock prices, movies,
> music, photos, pdf's, excel files, word docs, etc. just like my laptop.
> hum. I guess your iPhone is broken?
>

>> Notice its firewire/USB ports to tie the external hard drive to so you
>> can onload/offload data/pictures/movies/stuff to/from? NOT! A tiny
>> laptop has plenty of ports to offload/onload with.

>
> what? everyone's iPhone can do that, why can't yours?
> ...

>> no, it's not server based, unless you call voice mail server based, but
>> all phones work that way. everything else I store IN the phone.

>
> You're obviously confused here. Do you really OWN an iPhone? Without
> being connected to the web, which *IS* server based, what can you do
> with it beyond what every other phone can do?

> Listen to music? My Nokia S60 can do that. Including OGG, which he
> iPhone can't play

> Look at pictures... My Nokia S60 can do that.

> Watch Movies... My Nokia S60 can do that. Including Divx, Mpeg4, etc...

> Oxford wrote:
>
> You're obviously confused here. Do you really OWN an iPhone? Without being
> connected to the web, which *IS* server based, what can you do with it
> beyond what every other phone can do?

> Steve Mackay hotmail.com> wrote:
>

>>> no, it's not server based, unless you call voice mail server based, but
>>> all phones work that way. everything else I store IN the phone.

>> You're obviously confused here. Do you really OWN an iPhone? Without
>> being connected to the web, which *IS* server based, what can you do
>> with it beyond what every other phone can do?

>
> Yes, I own several, and the iPhone is no more "server based" than any
> Laptop... and that is the point.

>

>> Listen to music? My Nokia S60 can do that. Including OGG, which he
>> iPhone can't play

>
> But not through an easy to use interface. Nobody but fools want OGG, a
> wretched format.