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Author: OxfordOxford Date: Dec 1, 2007 11:59
This rings true of what I've been saying all along, it appears even AT&T
is now scared of Apple and its business intentions...
Keep in mind, the iPhone is only one small update away from making EVERY
iPhone compatible with VoIP, then simply dropping the old cell network
like a hot potato.
AT&T needs to be very careful here, Apple is a much stronger company, so
they need to play nice or end up like IBM.
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Important Parts Here:
What I believe is troubling the relationship between AT&T and Apple is
the upcoming auction for 700-MHz wireless spectrum and AT&T's discovery
that -- as I have predicted for weeks -- Apple will be joining Google in
bidding. AT&T thought its five-year "exclusive" iPhone agreement with
Apple would have precluded such a bid, but that just shows how poorly
Randall Stephenson understood Steve Jobs. Steve always hurts his friends
to see how much they really love him, so AT&T probably should have
expected this kind of corporate body blow.
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Author: ZnUZnU Date: Dec 1, 2007 12:11
In article
mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford superart.com> wrote:
> This rings true of what I've been saying all along, it appears even AT&T
> is now scared of Apple and its business intentions...
>
> Keep in mind, the iPhone is only one small update away from making EVERY
> iPhone compatible with VoIP, then simply dropping the old cell network
> like a hot potato.
Um... and using what network instead? The iPhone couldn't use some
hypothetical 700 MHz network without a hardware upgrade, unless Apple
has been doing something very sneaky (and implausible).
It would be interesting to see Apple get this spectrum, but I wouldn't
consider it too likely. It would be just as interesting to see Google
get this spectrum, and that might even have a lot of the same benefits
for Apple. That's more likely, but far from a forgone conclusion.
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Author: OxfordOxford Date: Dec 1, 2007 12:40
ZnU wrote:
>> This rings true of what I've been saying all along, it appears even AT&T
>> is now scared of Apple and its business intentions...
>>
>> Keep in mind, the iPhone is only one small update away from making EVERY
>> iPhone compatible with VoIP, then simply dropping the old cell network
>> like a hot potato.
>
> Um... and using what network instead? The iPhone couldn't use some
> hypothetical 700 MHz network without a hardware upgrade, unless Apple
> has been doing something very sneaky (and implausible).
802.11 of course, that offers plenty of speed and coupling it with free
phone calls to any other iPhone would be about the 6th Killer App in the
history of the industry, 4th one directly relating to Apple/SJ hardware.
(visicalc, pagemaker, www, then iChatIP)
> It would be interesting to see Apple get this spectrum, but I wouldn't
> consider it too likely. It would be just as interesting to see Google
> get this spectrum, and that might even have a lot of the same benefits
> for Apple. That's more likely, but far from a forgone conclusion.
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Date: Dec 1, 2007 12:49
> This rings true of what I've been saying all along, it appears even AT&T
> is now scared of Apple and its business intentions...
Hardly, moron.
>
> Keep in mind, the iPhone is only one small update away from making EVERY
> iPhone compatible with VoIP, then simply dropping the old cell network
> like a hot potato.
Which will make it nothing more than an overpriced iPod.
>
> AT&T needs to be very careful here, Apple is a much stronger company, so
> they need to play nice or end up like IBM.
You mean they'll kick the crap out of Apple products?
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Author: Elmo P. ShagnastyElmo P. Shagnasty Date: Dec 1, 2007 15:13
In article
mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford superart.com> wrote:
> apple has a very long history with phones and phone phreaking,
Well, let's see. I'm pretty sure Steve Jobs did drugs when he was
younger, so you can just as easily say that Apple has a very long
history of drug abuse with its top officers.
I'm also sure that Jobs takes a shit every day, so you can also say that
Apple has a long history of being involved with waste management.
Oxturd keeps talking about the days when a couple of college
students/droputs sold some phone phreaking boxes to make extra money,
and somehow in his mind that makes Apple an expert in telecommunications.
Of course, Oxturd also thinks that Adele Goldberg served "milk and
cookies" when Apple visited PARC, so...
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Author: DTCDTC Date: Dec 1, 2007 17:56
Oxford wrote:
> The whole spectrum is still 400 days away from being usable, so on the
> "way out there" side of things
You are confused.
The spectrum is 400 days (?) from being AWARDED.
Next comes type certification of equipment.
Then the manufacturing of equipment (mainly chipsets).
Then the network build out.
Or are you dreaming that in 400 days everything will magically start
working?
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Author: ChairManChairMan Date: Dec 1, 2007 19:18
In news:YbadnZcsD5S1YszanZ2dnUVZ_vmlnZ2d@ giganews.com,
Ness-Net more.damn.spam.nessnet.com>spewed forth:
>> This rings true of what I've been saying all along, it appears even
>> AT&T is now scared of Apple and its business intentions...
>>
>
>> AT&T needs to be very careful here, Apple is a much stronger
>> company, so they need to play nice or end up like IBM.
>>
>> Apple will be joining Google in
>> bidding.
>
> First - Oxy is quoting a BLOG - another fanboy's OPINION
> Far from fact...
>
> This Oxy insane fantasy that "Apple is a much stronger company" is ...
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Author: LarryLarry Date: Dec 1, 2007 19:57
"Ness-Net" more.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote in
news:YbadnZcsD5S1YszanZ2dnUVZ_vmlnZ2d@giganews.com:
> First - Oxy is quoting a BLOG - another fanboy's OPINION
> Far from fact...
>
>
MEDS, NESSY, MEDS!!.....(C;
Larry
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Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v
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Author: OxfordOxford Date: Dec 1, 2007 21:38
DTC wrote:
> The spectrum is 400 days (?) from being AWARDED.
>
> Next comes type certification of equipment.
>
> Then the manufacturing of equipment (mainly chipsets).
>
> Then the network build out.
>
> Or are you dreaming that in 400 days everything will magically start
> working?
it apple wins, they'll have product on day one. that's just how they
roll.
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Date: Dec 1, 2007 21:45
> DTC wrote:
>
>> The spectrum is 400 days (?) from being AWARDED.
>>
>> Next comes type certification of equipment.
>>
>> Then the manufacturing of equipment (mainly chipsets).
>>
>> Then the network build out.
>>
>> Or are you dreaming that in 400 days everything will magically start
>> working?
>
> it apple wins, they'll have product on day one. that's just how they
> roll.
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