> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:09:18 -0500, Wally Chapman yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Wilson wrote:
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>>> The thing that control advocates haven't been able to explain
>>> is how areas in the US with less restrictive gun control
>>> generally have lower violent crime rates while areas with the
>>> most restrictive control measures have some of the highest
>>> rates. This is opposite of what advocates of the nanny state
>>> tell us should be true.

>> "An armed society is a polite society." - Robert Heinlien
>>
>> Here in Ohio, the violent crime rate has dropped since the enactment of
>> the concealed carry law a couple years ago. The places in Ohio with the
>> most crime - Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati - are the places which
>> continuously try to enact local ordinances that restrict this law.

> ...

> A pole then. How many gun toters are there reading and/or lurking here
> today? I personally prefer poison...but that's just me.

> KittyP wrote:
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>> A pole then. How many gun toters are there reading and/or lurking here
>> today? I personally prefer poison...but that's just me.

>
> Me, of course. I have two rifles, two shotguns and four S&W revolvers,
> the oldest made around 1900 and the newest only a couple years old. I
> also have a crossbow and a plethora of knives, because I can never
> remember where I put the dang things.
>
> Wally (and I can getcha a surplus LAAW cheap)

>
> A pole then. How many gun toters are there reading and/or lurking here
> today? I personally prefer poison...but that's just me.
>
> Kitty

>On Feb 17, 8:11 am, "KittyP" hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> You're on to some excellent points. Especially the epidemic of obsession
>> with risk.

>
>It's Yuppification ... it's invasive, it's busy...

>Wally Chapman wrote:
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>> KittyP wrote:
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>>> In the news last night a 20-something year old Oregon community
>>> college student in criminal justice was taken into custody and sent
>>> for mental...

>
>
>"Giggles Like a Girl" wrote in message
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>> In article news.west.cox.net>,
>> don.harvey@absfg.com says...

>>>
>>>KittyP writes:
>>>

>>>> In the news last night a 20-something year old Oregon community college
>>>> student in criminal justice was taken into custody and sent for mental
>>>> evaluation (usually a three day ordeal) because he posted a rant that
>>>> included advocating violence in his My Space.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.katu.com/news/15687037.html
>>>>
>>>> The news folks on one station interviewed several of his friends who
>>>> were
>>>> blown away (so to speak), because the guy was always smiling (unlike the ...

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>
>"Giggles Like a Girl" wrote in message
>news:8fda4$47b7d62d$4038ecbe$23505@PRIMUS.CA...

>> In article , kittyp2060@hotmail.com says...

>>>
>>>In the news last night a 20-something year old Oregon community college
>>>student in criminal justice was taken into custody and sent for mental
>>>evaluation (usually a three day ordeal) because he posted a rant that
>>>included advocating violence in his My Space.
>>>
>>>http://www.katu.com/news/15687037.html
>>>
>>>The news folks on one station interviewed several of his friends who were
>>>blown away (so to speak), because the guy was always smiling (unlike the
>>>mug
>>>shot), wasn't a violent fellow in any way, and was just blowing off steam
>>>(not unlike a few of us do occasionally in absfg).
>>> ...

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:54:47 -0800 (PST), pseudomodo yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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>>On Feb 17, 11:37 am, Keynes earthlinkspam.net> wrote:

>>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:24:11 -0800 (PST), pseudomodo yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:

>

>>>>On Feb 17, 12:37 am, not.a.spam.d...@now.go.away (Giggles Like a Girl)
>>>>wrote:

>

>>>>> There is also an issue of creeping
>>>>> authoritarianism and to my mind an epidemic of
>>>>> obsession with risk. It is not okay in my mind to have
>>>>> extreme responses like lockdowns and arrests and bombing
>>>>> of foreign countries based on the desire to be free of
>>>>> every possible fear while at the same time indulging
>>>>> every possible fear as entertainment. ...

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>Giggles Like a Girl wrote:

>>
>> My buddy teaches at a college near here. I criticised the
>> use of the term and the tactic "lockdown" for things like
>> gunmen being spotted or active on campus. (I think it is
>> a bankrupt idea, a prison-term that is offensive in the
>> context of a school...) He defended the idea, to my frank
>> astonishment. "Yes, lock the kiddies down in groups so
>> they are easier to shoot" I said. His instinct is to
>> control. It is authoritarian and has nothing to do with
>> safety, IMO. "Lockdown" is a term that gives parents
>> comfort just because it sounds like it's tough and
>> absolute. (it does have the same ring as "zero tolerance",
>> doesn't it?)
>>
>> So just last week this same college went into "lockdown"
>> because someone spotted someone carrying a rifle in the
>> woods. As it turns out, it was a tripod for a camera, ...