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  Re: Hell Hath No Fury?         


Author: Gunfighter40
Date: Jan 19, 2007 19:45

One of the Foxfire books - sorry, can't remember which one - takes you
through the process of building a rifling bench. The bench is built
with hand tools. I'll try to describe what I recollect from reading the
tome years ago. As I vaguely remember, the barrel is fixed in place.
The rifling apparatus is mounted upon a sliding cradle lying between
guides atop the bench. The rifling cutter is tightly mounted in a slot
at the end of a long rod. A gear is fixed to the other end of the rod.
Guides hold the rod in place but allow it to rotate but not move
longitudinally. A toothed rack device is driven across the cradle by a
under-lug running in a slanting dado in the bench itself as the cradle
is slowly advanced, feeding the rotating rod and cutter into the
barrel, teh rod making one turn in about 40 to 48 inches. Barrels back
then were hammered into an octagonal cross section, giving either 4 or
8 flats to locate the barrel to cut the 4 or 8 rifling grooves. It was
a slow process, each groove requiring several passes of the cutter.
ISTR shims were inserted between the cutter and the bottom of the
retaining slot to advance the cutter to cut deeper each pass. There you
have it. Now go make your own Kentucky rifle. Do a good job and you'll
have an accurate firearm.
Walt BJ ...
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  Re: Drug problems and government (was: Counter missiles)         


Author: Pete nospam Zakel
Date: Jan 19, 2007 19:38

In article <1169252318.942508.52960@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com> "Steady Eddy" comcast.net> writes:
>What can be done about the problem? Legalizing drugs is not even on the
>political long range radar screen.

No, lots of drugs are legal. Just those perceived as being used by
"undesirables" are illegal, even though some of the most dangerous drugs are
perfectly legal and used by "respectable" people.

Even many of the illegal drugs are used by "respectable" people. You would be
amazed by how many people you know and/or respect do currently illegal drugs.
>I am against legalizing drugs but I
>believe there should be a democratic vote on the subject. I don't

No, there shouldn't. Making drugs illegal is in my mind counter to the
Constitution.
>believe there are any valid medical uses for marijuana but, I voted for
>medicinal use of the product in California. Last night I had a talk

Sigh. There are dozens (at least) well documented medical uses for marijuana,
and researchers are discovering more all the time.

It doesn't matter what you believe -- it is a demonstrated fact that marijuana
has medical value.
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  Re: Whither Haven?         


Author: Hoi-Polloi
Date: Jan 18, 2007 08:32

Jeffrey MacHott wrote:
> deowll wrote:
>
>>> [2] I'm surprised that the Erries haven't already sold the tech to the
>>> Solarians, scamps that they are.
>>
>> You miss that they are men of honor. You have to keep your word.
>
> Indeed, they've been shown in the books to be the most honorable player
> in the Manticore-Haven War, to a degree that even the Graysons have
> fallen short from time to time.
>

Let's go a little deeper into this. Certainly the Erries have a
reputation for keeping their word. But what is the word they're
keeping? That is, we know that Erewhon is likely about to withdraw
from the alliance, yes? But
we don't know much about the treaty itself.
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  Re: Drug problems and government         


Author: Dr. Zarkov
Date: Jan 17, 2007 22:07

deowll wrote:
> "Peter H. Proctor" drproctor.com> wrote...
>>"deowll" bellsouth.net>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>You may well be correct about this being the most pragmatic choice but it
>>>pretty much amounts to writing of X percent of population as refuse and
>>>letting selection run its course.
>>
>>As...
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  Re: Counter missiles         


Author: Sean Kennedy
Date: Jan 17, 2007 21:13

"deowll" bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:caArh.4315$Oe2.2038@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
> I thought you knew. I don't take orders from you. You have run into
> disagreement and you are getting very emotional. Worse you have used
> evidence that negates one claim. That executions cause more murders.
> This is a bad thing.
>
> You have the right to be opposed to the death penalty. I believe that
> you are so opposed to it that you would twist data and prevaricate to
> support your cause. If I'm wrong I do apologize but that's the way the
> ball bounces we me.
>
> God bless and do something you enjoy.
>

Lol - I'm not emotional at all. I'm doing what my family enjoys
most, taking the opposite side and doing everything I can with it.

You'll note that this argument is very much at odds with my premise
that I'd murder billions upon billions of innocent people to make
the planet killers pay.
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  Re: Hell Hath No Fury?         


Author: Offbreed
Date: Jan 17, 2007 18:37

deowll wrote:
> "Offbreed" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> deowll wrote:
>>> "Offbreed" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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  Re: Whither Haven?         


Author: Hoi-Polloi
Date: Jan 17, 2007 08:45

pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but "Hoi-Polloi" yahoo.com>
> wrote on 17 Jan 2007 00:09:05 -0800 in alt.books.david-weber :
>>
>>* (Abject surrender) Just like it says. Haven sends a message: "We
>>surrender. Now what?" See above for Manty inability to occupy the
>>whole of Haven. Annexation is right out; the Manties would be
>>culturally swamped by their masses of new people.
>
> Haven is run as subsidiary of Manticore. As I understand it, the US
> occupation of Japan directly involved some 1500 men. The US basically took
> over at the Ministerial Level, and the Japanese bureaucracy continued to
> function. "Here's to the new minister, same as the old minister, save he
> looks funny."
> New Paris would get instructions from the Manticore...
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  Re: Counter missiles         


Author: Sean Kennedy
Date: Jan 17, 2007 06:15

"deowll" bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:kBfrh.3617$Oe2.840@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
>
> "Sean Kennedy" comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns98B8CE8D6C2D6therealorangyahoocom@216.196.97.136...
>> "deowll" bellsouth.net> wrote in
>> news:y_Aqh.25730$FY2.15511@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
>> Well - it's possible you've never studied deviant behavior: Almost
>> to a person people who commit capital crimes either never think about
>> the possible consequences, or believe they won't be caught, or simply
>> don't care. The difference between life in a prison cell with maybe
>> 1 hour of excercise time and death is not one that makes a bit of
>> difference in whether they commit the crime.
>
> Depends. It stopped me. It might not stop you.
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  Re: Counter missiles         


Author: Sean Kennedy
Date: Jan 17, 2007 05:48

"deowll" bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:qTfrh.3629$Oe2.1100@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
> If you believe what you say you need to start a campaign abolishing
> prisons and letting all the criminals out.
>
> There are methods which have been proven to take care of this but you
> don't want to go there. You don't want to go anywhere near there.

Too late for that - the damage done to our society by the symbolic
crusade of the 20th century is likely permanent.

America is in decline, we just don't want to admit it.
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  Re: Counter missiles         


Author: Fred Burton
Date: Jan 16, 2007 13:46

Brian McDonald wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:41:36 GMT, Jeffrey MacHott
>netzero.net> wrote:
>
>
>>The question I have is if we have the most people locked up per capita.
>
>
>something like 2.2%% of the total populace of the states is in prison
>of one sort or another. per capita you actually have more people in
>prison than anyone on the planet.
>even stalin at the height of his
>reign didn't lock up so many people.

Oh, for god's sakes, the only reason that that statement is true is because
Stalin's purges KILLED so many people!!!
>strangely even with so many in prison the creation of new prisons
>doesn't help the over crowding situation more than ever so briefly.

Maybe the overcrowding issues would be better if people just friggin' OBEYED
THE LAW!!!
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