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Author: Chicobiker
Date: Apr 3, 2008 14:48

Hi Guys.

Any tips on removing stuck rear drums? I have a 2003 Impreza Outback
and I want to replace the drums. I thought the axle nut had to be
removed to get the drums off, but they wouldn't come off. Turns out,
there is a separate wheel flange, and the drums are probably stuck to
the flange. Can I use the threaded bolt holes (probably 8mm) between
the lug nuts to drive the drum away from the wheel hub?

Can anyone confirm and provide tips and tricks to get those things
off?

Will I run into the same issue with the front rotors?

Thanks,
Chicobiker
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Re: stuck drums         


Author: Bob Noble
Date: Apr 3, 2008 20:03

On my car, I removed the axle nuts and used a screw driver to release the
brake shoes on the back side just under the wheel cylinders, you will find a
rubber plug. The plug is removed and a screw driver is pushed in to trip the
automatic brake adjuster.
Once that is done they should just slide off, if you have the axle nut off.
An impact wrench with a socket is the best way to remove the axle nuts.
They can be removed with a wrench, whacking the wrench hard with a hammer.
Usually they aren't that tight.

From what I've read of your posts, replacing the brakes may be over your
head.
If you can't get the axle nut off, it says your mechanicing may be in need.
Maybe stick to bikes. :O)
Oh, and a quart of brake fluid should do it to replace the fluid.
The front rotors are a whole different ball game as far as the brake pads,
but the axle is the same.
I'd say front brake pads are easier to do then the back brakes. Back brakes
last a whole lost longer then front brakes so they likely do not need any
replacement.
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Re: stuck drums         


Author: Carl 1 Lucky Texan
Date: Apr 3, 2008 20:29

Chicobiker wrote:
> Hi Guys.
>
> Any tips on removing stuck rear drums? I have a 2003 Impreza Outback
> and I want to replace the drums. I thought the axle nut had to be
> removed to get the drums off, but they wouldn't come off. Turns out,
> there is a separate wheel flange, and the drums are probably stuck to
> the flange. Can I use the threaded bolt holes (probably 8mm) between
> the lug nuts to drive the drum away from the wheel hub?
>
> Can anyone confirm and provide tips and tricks to get those things
> off?
>
> Will I run into the same issue with the front rotors?
>
> Thanks,
> Chicobiker
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Re: stuck drums         


Author: Ragnar
Date: Apr 4, 2008 04:09

Chicobiker wrote:
> Hi Guys.
>
> Any tips on removing stuck rear drums? I have a 2003 Impreza Outback
> and I want to replace the drums. I thought the axle nut had to be
> removed to get the drums off, but they wouldn't come off. Turns out,
> there is a separate wheel flange, and the drums are probably stuck to
> the flange. Can I use the threaded bolt holes (probably 8mm) between
> the lug nuts to drive the drum away from the wheel hub?
>
> Can anyone confirm and provide tips and tricks to get those things
> off?
>
> Will I run into the same issue with the front rotors?
>
> Thanks,
> Chicobiker

Release the parking brake.
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Re: stuck drums         


Author: Chicobiker
Date: Apr 4, 2008 05:08

On Apr 3, 11:03 pm, "Bob Noble" sonic.net> wrote:
> On my car, I removed the axle nuts and used a screw driver to release the
> brake shoes on the back side just under the wheel cylinders, you will find a
> rubber plug. The plug is removed and a screw driver is pushed in to trip the
> automatic brake adjuster.
> Once that is done they should just slide off, if you have the axle nut off.
> An impact wrench with a socket is the best way to remove the axle nuts.
> They can be removed with a wrench, whacking the wrench hard with a hammer.
> Usually they aren't that tight.
>
> From what I've read of your posts, replacing the brakes may be over your
> head.
> If you can't get the axle nut off, it says your mechanicing may be in need.
> Maybe stick to bikes. :O)
> Oh, and a quart of brake fluid should do it to replace the fluid.
> The front rotors are a whole different ball game as far as the brake pads,
> but the axle is the same.
> I'd say front brake pads are easier to do then the back brakes. Back brakes
> last a whole lost longer then front brakes so they likely do not need any
> replacement. ...
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Re: stuck drums         


Author: Bob Noble
Date: Apr 4, 2008 23:39

The rubber plug is nearer the top. A screw driver or something like it is
pushed in and it causes the automatic adjuster to release. It will be easier
to understand once you get one off.
If you don't release the automatic adjuster, the shoes might hang up on the
lip of the inside of the drum if there is one.

A trick I learned is not to take the tire off. This makes it easier to
remove the axle nut and gives you more leverage to monkey with the brake
drum. Rap things with a big hammer a couple of times and...
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Re: stuck drums - job completed         


Author: Chicobiker
Date: Apr 8, 2008 19:36

I replaced all 4 corners today.

I started with the drums again. This time, knowing what the parts
looked like, and armed with 8mm bolts, I was confident. Things didn't
start well. One of the two bolt holes in the drums quickly stripped
and became useless. However, it didn't take long for the other bolt
to snap the drums loose. Beauty. In fact, the outside part of the
drum broke right off. See pic:

http://www.geocities.com/chicobiker/brake_drum003_sm.jpg

Those with a sharp eye will notice the rust on the break. At least
2/3rds of that break was old. The funny thing is that the car passed
an Ontario Safety Standards test just yesterday. Hmmm ...

Anyway, It didn't take too long to put the new ones back together. I
now see the adjuster, and can see how easy it would be to adjust from
the outside.

Drum #2 came off even easier (with the 8mm bolts of course).
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Re: stuck drums - job completed         


Author: Clifford Heath
Date: Apr 8, 2008 21:56

Chicobiker wrote:
> I replaced all 4 corners today.

Good job! And an important reminder for us all; bolts ain't bolts :-).
Use proper high-tensile or high-shear bolts where they're called-for...

Clifford Heath.
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