> Bought a SUNL product? Below is what you can expect!
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> <http://forums.atvconnection.com/messageview.cfm/catid/10/threadid/518264.cfm>
> All the bad things you have read about SUNL are correct, why bother with
> JUNK!
>
> Things I've had go wrong in the first 3 months:
>
> 1.) Chain broke after the "guard" squashed against it after casual trail
> riding...and I mean CASUAL.
> 2.) Bolts to the swing arm axle adjuster fell out after a day of CASUAL
> riding, used red thread lock to fix it, took an hour to find them in the
> field.
> 3.) Throttle cable got stuck after a day of attempted mud riding...my son
> held on for dear life!
> 4.) Frame developed a crack near the lower swing arm joint...hmmm.
> 5.) Gas tank developed a hair line crack after another day of CASUAL
> riding (this is when I decided it was no longer safe for my son to ride
> it).
>
> So, bottom line, if your having good luck with your SUNL, your among A
> FEW. Don't waste your money...that's all I'll say.
>
> <http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/sunl-c869.html>
> Buyer beware!
> In April of 2006 I purchased 6 ATV's from a SUNL dealer thru EBAY. This
> dealer, who I will not name, has been so very helpful. I have no
> complaints at all about him. He has sent me box after box of parts for
> free. What absolutely floors me, is how incredibly poorly these things are
> made. My kids are all average sized, ranging from 6 yrs old to 11 yrs old.
> They only ride them on the weekends in our 4.5 acres of flat as can be
> grass yard. No jumps, tricks, rough riding, nothing. These things have
> been an endless headache for me. I seriously can't tell you how many hours
> and hours I have spent trying to make these things work. Here are just a
> few problems I have encountered: CONSTANT carb problems-float needles
> sticking open causing the carb to empty the entire fuel tank all over the
> ground/floor. Needles sticking shut causing the engine not to start. Fuel
> lines cracking and leaking all over the hot engine after only one month of
> riding. Dead batteries every weekend causing me t
> o need
> to jump start them off of my battery charger just to get them going. All
> of them have had the chains break at least once. The frame on one of the
> 110's broke in half where the swingarm meets while my 60 lb daughter was
> riding it, luckily she was not hurt. All of them have had parts break,
> fall off, loosen up, etc for no reason. I got to the point where I was
> putting Loctite on everything! I could go on and on. At this point, only
> ONE of the SIX I purchased is running. They are parked permanently. Now, I
> knew that these were not going to be as good as the Hondas that I
> originally wanted to buy (the Hondas are 5 times the $), but I didn't
> think these things would be so terribly made and downright dangerous. In
> the end, I guess you do get what you pay for. BUYER BEWARE!
>
> <http://chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=6462&highlight>=
> I was a SunL Dealer couldn't get parts at all and filed against them
> through my credit card company. Endless Journey Cycles Ohio
>
> <http://myvento.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3544>
> Just picked up a brand new 150cc scooter by SUNL. Got it cheap, but as I
> am finding out, getting replacement body panels are difficult to come by.
> I email SUNL in Texas but they don't respond. I email a distributor in
> City of Industry, California, and they too don't respond. It would appear
> the SUNL is another fly by night company or run out of someone's bedroom.
>
> <http://www.atvnation.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t11020.html>
> Run away from anything that says SunL on it. We used to deal in their
> scooters also and they were nothing but problems.
>
> <http://www.myvento.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1763>
> Arg! Well I still don't have the parts I need to fix my kickstarter. I
> can't get a hold of SunL's parts division (the switch board at SunL only
> picks up the phone when the parts division is closed, HA!). Brian, If your
> smart you will tear up Sunl's number and never call them again. They are
> THE WORST company when it comes to scooters.
>
> <http://www.myvento.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=849>
> One important message to you. DO NOT look for any support from
> SUNL. They are the worst in my opinion and I have been trying to deal
> with them since buying the bike last October.
>
> <http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/complaints/2007/FEB/complaint11889.cfm>
> I purchased several mopeds to resale in my powersport shop. Sunl has made
> promise after promise to send necessary parts which I ended up buying from
> a parts house.
>
> <http://www.gokartsrus.com/go-kart_forum/viewtopic.php?t=443&sid=42ac0a15abd4b1b6...>
> Many many phone calls all over the country dealing with rude receptionists
> and ignorant peaople, finally yielded the name and phone number of the GM
> over thier 4 US branches, Jeff Boudreaux at 1-866-423-1072. I spoke to him
> on Feb 14th and thought i was finally going to get somwhere, he refered me
> to Chris the Parts and Tech manager in Texas. Now about 10 e-mails later I
> have not gotten any resolution. Lotsa "gonnas" but no action. when I am
> done with this post I plan to get on the phone to Jeff again. Really a
> shame if they want to build a brand in the US, if they don't change and
> begin to listen to customers problems, address them with manufacturing
> changes and then stand behind thier product and make parts accessable they
> won't last long.
> I have had alot of communication with SUNL in Texas and do not get the
> responses I had hoped for, especially considering they are trying to build
> a brand here in the U.S. For example I have tried to get the missing
> washer that holds on the dust cap on the front hub for over a month
> now.... Nuthin. I have tried to find out if there is a clutch rebuild
> kit.... Nuthin. I could go on but won't.
>
> <http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/sunl-c869.html>
> These karts are junk. And if that isn't enough, just try getting parts for
> them. Even as a dealer, I couldn't hardly get any parts. I finally gave up
> and dumped the line. Stay away from SUNL. You will be doing yourself and
> your family a great favor.
>
> <http://www.texasatvs.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-14204.html>
> stay away from me and my buddy used to sell them they have alot of
> problems Chassis breaking carbs falling off and sticking wide open one kid
> .. got hurt noto long ago and sunl is being sued over defects spend the
> extra money and buy name brand
>
> <http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/enthusiasts/review_detail.asp?rv=48461&veh=401...>
> -- Pink Piece of Junk --
> I can't believe I actually bought this for my 8 year old daughter. She
> wanted to ride with me at the local track but I didn't want to spend any
> more money on an expensive quad so I decided to buy this. I am extremely
> disappointed because it only rides for a few hours before something goes
> wrong with it. Everything about this quad is awful. I would never buy
> another SunL ATV ever again.
>
> <http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/enthusiasts/review_detail.asp?rv=47724&veh=389...>
> -- SUNL Junk --
> Purchased a Hanma R6 for grandson for Christmas. Purchased 12/22/2006.
> Went through all the pre-ride checks and he received atv on 12/26/2006. No
> rough riding, no jumping, no high speeds and unit falling apart everyday.
> Welds breaking and bolts coming loose. Returned unit on January 4, 2007
> and probably out the money, but SUNL is junk - DO NOT BUY IT. No warranty,
> no parts, and no service. Somebody needs to get a class action suit
> started on these guys to shut them down or get them straight before
> somebody dies.
>
> <http://forums.atvconnection.com/messageview.cfm/catid/10/threadid/518264.cfm>
> You get what you pay for...I bought a ATV 109 for my son, it served it's
> purpose for a couple of months. I got tired of fixing it after every ride.
> In general, they are junk.
>
> <http://www.atvtime.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=106869&sid=253c69a37fd42071a81a354...>
> We bought a little SUNL about 2 months ago, something has fallen off or
> broke everytime we go riding. This last time, it was the frame. So we are
> sending it back and are looking at getting the Unison Desert Cat 90. So
> far I have heard alot of good stuff. We ride in sand mostly. My son is
> only 35 lbs and will be 8 this summer. We want something that we wont have
> to fix or tighten things on every time we ride.
>
> http://ridingarizona.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24677𼋵
> <http://ridingarizona.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24677&>
> We have some experience with "Chinese Quads". While they are cheaper, you
> have to be willing to put in the time in maintaining them. They take A LOT
> more maintenance than regular bikes. Things rattle off and parts break
> easily on a regular basis. You have to know how to fix them and it is
> difficult to get certain parts. It takes a lot of patience in getting on
> line and calling places to find parts. Many times we have ordered parts
> for them to be back ordered for months and we never get them. It was
> really hard to find tires and wheels for our little one and we ended up
> having to wait about 7 months before we found the right ones.
>
> <http://ridingarizona.com/forum/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=211831&TOPIC_ID...>
> I bought a SunL 50cc quad for my 5 year old stepdaughter less than a year
> ago. I too did not want to spend $2k on a 50cc quad, especially if she
> turned out not to be interested in riding it. My first impression was that
> it had a stout motor for a 50cc., had a decent looking rear disc brake,
> electric start, remote start, remote kill switch, pretty neat I thought. I
> soon realized that what I had was a total pile of crap.
>
> * The suspension is nothing more than springs - there is no appreciable
> damping in the "shock". Makes for precarious handling characteristics thru
> any sort of appreciable bumps.
> * The throttle stop, at its full-in position, still allows the bike to
> haul a**.
> * There is no parking brake, and it will walk away at normal idle levels.
> * Not that the brake is much use, which was surprising, as it's a
> hydraulic disc brake (rear only, no front brake at all). It will slow the
> bike down eventually, but it's not even strong enough to lock the rear
> wheels pulled fully to the grip. Yes, I bled it, no improvement.
> * There is no gas tank petcock. A piece of plastic from the cheapo gas
> tank lodged itself in the float seat, causing it to piss gas out the float
> vent. There was no vent tube, so the gas was leaking on the hot cylinder
> head. Only solution given a lack of the right tools to remove the plastics
> at the time was to drain the gas tank before putting it back on the
> trailer.
> * With the help of the springboard suspension and some uneven bumps
> (common to offroading), my daughter managed to flip it over. Now the
> steering shaft is bent.
>
> She's ridden it at maybe 8 outings total, and it is now a total piece of
> garabage. During the last 4 outings, I've spent more time fixing it than
> she has riding it, cutting out my riding time as well. Now that I know
> she's into riding, she will be getting a quality quad for her birthday in
> a couple months.
>
> So, in conclusion, if you don't ride very hard, or if you do ride hard but
> don't venture far from camp and can put up with a constantly breaking
> motorcycle or quad, the chinese models may be what you're looking for.
>
> <http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/sunl-c869.html>
> 7 days ago by Brandy Jenson
> I bought 2 four wheelers for my two daughters for a Christmas present from
> sunl the first thing that happened was when they were delivered one of
> them was the wrong color it was suppose to be pink and it was a hunters
> camo yellow for a boy and this was a Christmas present for my daughter and
> i hand her this boy looking four wheeler i contacted sunl and they said
> they didnt have the one i ordered so just sent me the wrong one hoping i
> would be happy well i was not it took from the end of nov. To just a few
> days ago to get the new body that i ordered i am so disappointed with
> these four wheeler every time we attempt to ride them they literally fall
> apart both of them are a piece of junk all the problems i read you had i
> have had the same things wrong with mine and every time i try to contact
> them they are full of excuses i think they're waiting for the year
> warranty to be up so then theres no chance of getting any help from sunl
> we bought these and they dont even run and were s
> uppose
> to just say oh well we got ripped off its not fair we should get a refund
> or something i feel like we totally got ripped off.
>
> 33 days ago by Jennifer McArdle
> The fact that these four wheelers are poorly made is absolutely true, and
> to add headache to injury, the dealer who sold my daughter's to me
> neglected to mention the laws and statutes concerning appropriate size for
> age class, the required education classes and registration documentation.
> So not only is the product poorly constructed, but due to the laws where I
> live and the fact that I would use it at public locations, my child is
> completely unable to use it. Which I guess isn't so bad considering the
> safety issues that other Sunl owners have experience. Stay very far away
> from the Sunl products!! do not make the same mistake that I did.
>
> <http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/hanma-r6-atv-poor-quality-c3998.html>
> HANMA R6 ATV - poor quality
> Complaint Rating: 67 %% with 3 votes
> Purchased SUNL Hanma R6 December 22, 2007..given as Christmas gift to 6
> year old 54 pound (24.49 kg) grandson. He received gift on December 26th.
>
> The recommended inspection before riding was completed on December 24th
> per the checklist in the owners manual. In addition to pre-ride inspection
> all bolts and nuts were checked for tightness. One bolt was found missing
> in rear muffler hanger and a number of bolts were loose. The nuts that
> attach the muffler to the engine head were loose and also tightened. Lug
> nuts on wheels were also checked for proper torque.
>
> During pre-ride inspection what looked to be a small crack was noted on
> rear rack bracket.
>
> Per instruction booklet motor break in procedures were followed by setting
> throttle at approximately half throttle for first ten hours. Youngster
> rode with father who was on a Kawasaki quad and father insured that engine
> speed was varied and that constant low speed was avoided However, unit was
> never broken in due to a total of ten hours not being completed. The
> vehicle held together only long enough for one tank of fuel and part of
> another tank to be used.
>
>
> December 26th: Rear muffler bolt came loose and was lost. Bolt replaced.
> Rear rack bracket broke and rack went forward into plastic body housing
> breaking plastic body.
>
> December 27th: Keeping muffler tight continued to be a problem and muffler
> was wired because muffler bracket broke. Battery case latching system
> broke.
>
> December 28th: Chain came off and had to be replaced and retightened and
> muffler continued to work loose at engine head.
>
> December 29th: front rack mounting broke and bolts holding muffler on
> engine head came loose and were lost, This was the end of using the unit.
> Unit was returned to dealer on January 4th,
>
> The unit is sold as an all terrain vehicle for off use road only. This
> unit was never subjected to any excess weight, nothing was carried on
> either rack, and the unit was never subjected to any severe treatment such
> as jumping or high speed operation in rough terrain, or for that matter
> even over mild terrain.. Unit was operated in field and pasture conditions
> in a rural area. None of the areas would be considered extreme or severe
> terrain. Overall the unit was operated in what would be considered mild
> territory for any off road or all terrain vehicle.
>
> The dealer has stated that the damage to the unit appeared to be "impact"
> damage. There was never any impact with any object other than those that
> were attached to the unit and fell off and impacted some other part of the
> unit such as the rear rack hitting the plastic body.
>
> I have absolutely no complaints at all about the engine other than the
> muffler not staying on the unit. Engine started easily every time and ran
> excellent. Brakes worked well and transmission seemed to perform
> flawlessly. However, I would add that the unit has not operated the full
> 10 hours as recommended for break in.
>
> The major problem I see is that the tubing used in the construction of the
> frame and racks is of extremely poor quality. With such little operating
> time under such mild conditions and seeing all of the welds break and
> other frame problems I am concerned that a major frame component could
> fail. Failure of a major part such as swing arm or other steering
> component could result in sever injury or even death to the rider and even
> low speeds. Don't waste your money, or chance your kids life.
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