On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:50:25 -0400, old man joe
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>On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:25:42 -0700 (PDT), Shubee
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>>>It seems like the biggest problem with Christian creationism is the
>>insistence by most Christians that the Christian God is the agent in
>>the creation process. That's automatically against the rulebook in the
>>game called science. I therefore propose replacing Christian
>>creationism with quantum creationism, which I believe embodies the
>>fundamentals of Christian creationism, yet can be defended as
>>science.
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> There is no such thing as a " Christian " God. the word
>" Christian " means " Christ follower. " the same would be to say God
>follows Himself.
Sure there is. The "Christian" God is the god described by Christian
doctrine. None of the doctrine is supported by evidence. Anti-science
creationism is another doctrine that is taught in differing ways by
Moslems and a minority of Christians who refuse to accept the physical
evidence, relying instead on their doctrines, supposedly derived from
the Q'ran or the Bible, that reject this clear evidence.
> the term " Christian creationism " doesn't make sense. It's not the
>Christian who propounds Creation but God Himself... Ro. 1:18-20...
>rendering man " without excuse. " God is the Prosecutor. elect
>Christians are simply, His witnesses.
As you know, God said no such thing. Your interpretation of the Bible
does not make it God's word, particularly when your interpretation calls
God a trickster.
> your recommendation to replace God with science simply calls God a
>liar.
No, you call God a liar when you reject evolution, because the evidence
for evolution is clear and abundant and you have absolutely _no_
evidence that supports your refusal to accept that evidence.
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> since God reveals Himself through His Creation, and if we refuse to
>believe God is the Author of Creation, we are calling God a liar...
>and that, is a serious matter. those who are saved are those who
>believe the Word of God.
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> and this is the test of salvation... whether or not we can hear the
>Word of God... Jn. 8:43,44
You reject the physical evidence that is available for all to see for
your peculiar interpretation of the Bible.
--
"Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel
to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy
Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should
take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in
which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh
it to scorn." -- Augustine, The Literal Meaning of Genesis
