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Author: Al KleinAl Klein Date: Jul 2, 2007 20:27
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:21:12 -0400, insaner wrote:
>except people DID see Jesus
Claimed to see. The actual evidence (not a single legitimate written
word mentioning him until more than 100 years after he supposedly
died, he came from a town that only existed after he died, etc.) is
that he's a myth.
>believing that Jesus rose on the 3rd day after dying on the cross is not
>supposed to be easy to believe.
Especially since Sunday is the SECOND day after Friday. Believing
that all the contradictory claims in a book are simultaneously true is
a sign if mental deficiency.
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Author: Dubh GhallDubh Ghall Date: Jul 23, 2007 13:42
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:16:30 -0400, insaner wrote:
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>>>>> A line above reads - "wallowing in your pride, your arrogance, and
>>>>> your disregard for truth.." - is EXACTLY how SOME atheists view the
>>>>> demeanour of SOME christians. Any debate...
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Author: Dubh GhallDubh Ghall Date: Jul 29, 2007 07:33
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:29:07 -0400, insaner wrote:
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>> And if they said, "No thank you", I would walk away.
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>> I would NOT, lie about them, and insult them, the way usenet xtians
>> do.
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>youre right, i would have to agree. but people arent perfect, not even
>christians. not even christians. oh well it happens. but instead of
>setting the example, you people just exacerbate them..
How, by telling them to ffff..er..go away?
Besides, on my own door step, I feel no requirement to set an example
in good manners.
>neither party is
>really innocent, but youre right, no thank you should be the cue to walk
>away. in real life this is generally the case, unless we are interested
>in knowing why not
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Author: Dubh GhallDubh Ghall Date: Aug 26, 2007 07:43
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:04:27 -0400, insaner wrote:
>Jeckyl wrote:
>> "Dubh Ghall" wrote in message
>> news:rpv7a39mun6b6onvh3lrbn8pbtpja7td35@4ax.com...
>>> When there is exactly the same amount of verifiable evidence *against*
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Author: Dubh GhallDubh Ghall Date: Sep 17, 2007 10:36
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:16:24 -0400, insaner wrote:
>by making fun of them and their beliefs, calling them names, insulting
>their intelligence, or ability to reason.. etc.. someone comes in, asks
>an honest (albeit perhaps touchy) question, and what do you people do?
>pounce them! i know because that was my experience here!
Our experience, is that xtians do not come in here with innocent
questions.
Xtians come in here with the express intention of preaching, showing
us the foolishness of not believing as they do, or otherwise shoving
their tripe down our throats.
The usual xtian introduction is, "I have a question for the atheists,
about "Blah blah".
Never for the group, only for the atheists.
You then proceed to ask a question, loaded with pre-suppositions of
what you imagine an atheists opinion would be, or should be, and the
correctness of your belief.
Such questions also often contain some sort of insulting remark.
Whether that is intentional, or simply because they do not know that
they are being insulting, is open to debate.
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Author: insanerinsaner Date: Sep 28, 2007 21:43
>> by making fun of them and their beliefs, calling them names, insulting
>> their intelligence, or ability to reason.. etc.. someone comes in, asks
>> an honest (albeit perhaps touchy) question, and what do you people do?
>> pounce them! i know because that was my experience here!
>
> Our experience, is that xtians do not come in here with innocent
> questions.
yeah, but dont generalize either. thats called bigotry. even i, when
asked questions i know people are just laying them as hooks to get me to
say something they want to hear, give them the benefit of the doubt and
try to answer as honestly as i can. at least in person, hopefully many
times here.. though i know not as often as i would like.
> Xtians come in here with the express intention of preaching, showing
> us the foolishness of not believing as they do, or otherwise shoving
> their tripe down our throats.
much like dawkins, penn and teller, and all manner of other atheists in
the spotlight do as well.. including every atheist poster on the
internet, whether it be youtube, digg, or any other free forum...
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Author: Tokay Pino GrisTokay Pino Gris Date: Sep 29, 2007 04:54
insaner wrote:
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>>> by making fun of them and their beliefs, calling them names,
>>> insulting their intelligence, or ability to reason.. etc.. someone
>>> comes in, asks an honest (albeit perhaps touchy) question, and what
>>> do you people do? pounce them! i know because that was my experience
>>> here!
>>
>> Our experience, is that xtians do not come in here with innocent
>> questions.
>
> yeah, but dont generalize either. thats called bigotry. even i, when
> asked questions i know people are just laying them as hooks to get me to
> say something they want to hear, give them the benefit of the doubt and
> try to answer as honestly as i can. at least in person, hopefully many
> times here.. though i know not as often as i would like.
Which makes you the exception to the rule of thumb. Glad to hear it.
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Author: SmilerSmiler Date: Sep 30, 2007 21:46
"insaner" wrote in message
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>
>>> by making fun of them and their beliefs, calling them names, insulting
>>> their intelligence, or ability to reason.. etc.. someone comes in, asks
>>> an honest (albeit perhaps touchy) question, and what do you people do?
>>> pounce them! i know because that was my experience here!
>>
>> Our experience, is that xtians do not come in here with innocent
>> questions.
>
> yeah, but dont generalize either. thats called bigotry. even i, when asked
> questions i know people are just laying them as hooks to get me to say
> something they want to hear, give them the benefit of the doubt and try to
> answer as honestly as i can. at least in person, hopefully many times
> here.. though i know not as often as i would like.
>
>> Xtians come in here with the express intention of preaching, showing
>> us the foolishness of not believing as they do, or otherwise shoving
>> their tripe down our throats. ...
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Author: Pastor FrankPastor Frank Date: Oct 1, 2007 04:50
"insaner" wrote in message
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> 1????????? wrote:
>>2????????? wrote:
>>>
>>> by making fun of them and their beliefs, calling them names, insulting
>>> their intelligence, or ability to reason.. etc.. someone comes in, asks
>>> an honest (albeit perhaps touchy) question, and what do you people do?
>>> pounce them! i know because that was my experience here!
>>
>> Our experience, is that xtians do not come in here with innocent
>> questions.
>
> yeah, but dont generalize either. thats called bigotry. even i, when asked
> questions i know people are just laying them as hooks to get me to say
> something they want to hear, give them the benefit of the doubt and try to
> answer as honestly as i can. at least in person, hopefully many times
> here.. though i know not as often as i would like.
>
>> Xtians come in here with the express intention of preaching, showing ...
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Author: TTTT Date: Oct 1, 2007 14:55
On 10/1/07 7:50 AM, in article 47015dba$0$26496$88260bb3@ free.teranews.com,
"Pastor Frank" christfirst.edu> wrote:
> "insaner" wrote in message
> news:fdkl1g$fn9$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca...
>> 1????????? wrote:
>>> 2????????? wrote:
>>>>
>>>> by making fun of them and their beliefs, calling them names...
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