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Author: old man joeold man joe Date: Nov 22, 2006 02:25
until Darwin and his kind came along few have historical mention of
dabbling in what science calls Evolution. though biological evolution
existed in ancient times, Charles Darwin gets the credit for his
publications dealing with the subject since he made the whole thing
plausible by his theory of natural selection.
with many since Darwin's time coming along and adding to this
theory and polishing it up through modern technology, the whole system
goes well beyond Darwin's wildest dreams all the way back to how it
all began... the " Big Bang " theory.
the Big Bang theory came about in the last century.
the credit for forming the Big Bang theory goes to a Catholic
priest turned scientist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang
the Big Bang theory completely eliminates the Lord God from His
work of creation and assigns His creation and all things with it as
nothing more than an a Godless existence in a Godless universe.
the poison of Evolution now has a ' plausible ' beginning... life
started from nothing alive driven by the engine of
' natural selection '.
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Author: Samuel W. HeywoodSamuel W. Heywood Date: Nov 22, 2006 09:30
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, old man joe wrote:
> the Big Bang theory came about in the last century.
>
> the credit for forming the Big Bang theory goes to a Catholic
> priest turned scientist.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang
>
> the Big Bang theory completely eliminates the Lord God from His
> work of creation and assigns His creation and all things with it as
> nothing more than an a Godless existence in a Godless universe.
How does the Big Bang theory eliminate God from his work of creation?
The Big Bang theory is just another creation story that is different
from the one told in Genesis.
> the poison of Evolution now has a ' plausible ' beginning... life
> started from nothing alive driven by the engine of
> ' natural selection '.
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Author: caleecalee Date: Nov 22, 2006 09:44
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:30:17 -0500, "Samuel W. Heywood"
MyRealBox.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, old man joe wrote:
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>> the Big Bang theory came about in the last century.
>>
>> the credit for forming the Big Bang theory goes to a Catholic
>> priest turned scientist.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang
>>
>> the Big Bang theory completely eliminates the Lord God from His
>> work of creation and assigns His creation and all things with it as
>> nothing more than an a Godless existence in a Godless universe.
>
>How does the Big Bang theory eliminate God from his work of creation?
What's "God" in the real world outside your religion?
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Author: caleecalee Date: Nov 22, 2006 10:24
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:19:44 -0500, "Samuel W. Heywood"
MyRealBox.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:30:17 -0500, "Samuel W. Heywood"
>> MyRealBox.com> wrote:
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>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, old man joe wrote:
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Author: Samuel W. HeywoodSamuel W. Heywood Date: Nov 22, 2006 11:25
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:19:44 -0500, "Samuel W. Heywood"
> MyRealBox.com> wrote:
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>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:30:17 -0500, "Samuel W. Heywood"...
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Author: caleecalee Date: Nov 22, 2006 11:39
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:25:37 -0500, "Samuel W. Heywood"
MyRealBox.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:19:44 -0500, "Samuel W. Heywood"
>> MyRealBox.com> wrote:
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Author: Free LunchFree Lunch Date: Nov 22, 2006 16:22
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 05:25:37 -0500, in alt.talk.creationism
old man joe home.com> wrote in
<9p48m2dlbvhiv20shm2vtk3asgovngcb20@4ax.com>:
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> until Darwin and his kind came along few have historical mention of
>dabbling in what science calls Evolution. though biological evolution
>existed in ancient times, Charles Darwin gets the credit for his
>publications dealing with the subject since he made the whole thing
>plausible by his theory of natural selection.
>
> with many since Darwin's time coming along and adding to this
>theory and polishing it up through modern technology, the whole system
>goes well beyond Darwin's wildest dreams all the way back to how it
>all began... the " Big Bang " theory.
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Author: Samuel W. HeywoodSamuel W. Heywood Date: Nov 22, 2006 19:06
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Free Lunch wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 05:25:37 -0500, in alt.talk.creationism
> old man joe home.com> wrote in
> <9p48m2dlbvhiv20shm2vtk3asgovngcb20@4ax.com>:
>> the is no need for Jesus Christ... He doesn't exist... He did not
>> frame the universe since it all came about by chance through the
>> Big Bang. life has no meaning. no purpose. no God.
>
> Could you explain this unsupported assertion? Does this mean that you
> are now an active enemy of religiosity?
That is not old man joe's position. It is the position of his
strawman. old man joe himself is into very zealous Biblical
creationist pro-religiousity. In his opening post where he
started this thread old man joe built a strawman and then he
had a dialog with it.
In your reply to old man joe you seem to have confused old man
joe's position with the point of view of his strawman.
Sam Heywood
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Author: Reverend DaveReverend Dave Date: Nov 22, 2006 21:14
old troll joe home.com> wrote in
news:9p48m2dlbvhiv20shm2vtk3asgovngcb20@4ax.com:
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> until Darwin and his kind came along few have historical mention of
> dabbling in what science calls Evolution. though biological evolution
> existed in ancient times, Charles Darwin gets the credit for his
> publications dealing with the subject since he made the whole thing
> plausible by his theory of natural selection.
>
> with many since Darwin's time coming along and adding to this
> theory and polishing it up through modern technology, the whole system
> goes well beyond Darwin's wildest dreams all the way back to how it
> all began... the " Big Bang " theory.
As several of us have pointed out before Big Bang Cosmology and Evolution
are two completely independent fields. The evidence from the one does not
necessarily support the evidence from the other. Taken as a whole however
they do go quite a long way in refuting the young earth beliefs of Bible
literalists and those who support ID.
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