"old man joe"
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> the case presented against God is simple and direct...
>
> God is all powerful; all knowing and is present everywhere by reason
> of His all knowingness. He can prevent war, disease, crime, famine,
> violent natural upheavals and remove by the power of His might any and
> all adversity which happens upon us.
>
> true.
>
> but He doesn't... not always anyway.
>
> for this cause some accuse God of being non-existant, or uncaring...
Um...actually I think the point is that God doesn't seem to be around to be
accused of anything.
> even mean and cold hearted.
>
> this is always the opinion of one class of people... the class of
> people who are in rebellion against God.
>
> the Word of God explains the reason behind all the calamities which
> befall us rather than relying on our own imagination.
> ( which is Gnosticism * )
> when left up to human reason the ways of God are seen as the ways of
> man, ( Ps. 50:21 ) for there is no revelation from which to examine
> such accusations against God when viewed by mans imagination...
>
> " The way of the wicked is like darkness; They do not know what makes
> them stumble." Pr. 4:19
>
> this will never do. the knowledge of God is in Scripture.
>
> the knowledge of God even in Scripture is purposely hidden from the
> understanding of those in rebellion against God...
>
> " why don't you understand My speech ? because you can not hear my
> word; you are of your father the devil " Jo. 8:43-45
>
> " And He said, "To you ( the elect ) it has been given to know the
> mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in
> parables, that 'Seeing they may not see, And hearing they may not
> understand." Lu. 8:10
>
> " the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God,
> for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they
> are spiritually discerned." 1 Cor.2:14
>
> this being the case, it is impossible to know the Truth without
> knowing Jesus in salvation...
>
> " Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one
> comes to the Father except through Me." Joh 16:6
>
> now, when it comes to the calamities which befall us, let it be known
> that there are countless injustices committed by man against his
> fellow man. there is no necessity on the part of God to prevent this
> by our time table... everyone without exception will receive his just
> deserts for what he has done on the Day of Judgement...
>
> " For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each
> one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has
> done, whether good or bad." 2 Cor. 5:10
>
> human institutions have gone the way of Gnosticism * in not following
> Gods command for civil obedence. the capital crime of murder is to be
> punished by death. Gen. 9:6 Ex. 21:12, 14
>
> we are to obey our government. Ro. 13:3-7
>
> the wickedness of man against his fellow man does not escape the
> notice of God and most assuredly shall be recompensed as noted above.
>
> the liability for sin has its wages... " the wages of sin is death "
> Ro.6:23 but man continues in wickedness... " Because the sentence
> against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of
> the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil." Ec. 8:11
>
> " These things you have done, and I kept silent; You thought that I
> was altogether like you; But I will rebuke you, And set them in order
> before your eyes." Ps.50:21
>
> that will come on the Day of Judgement. all the blasphemes and
> reviling of God that man has done will be set in order before our eyes
> for sins against God.
>
> the calamities of the natural world are also addressed in Holy
> Scripture...
>
> " Son of man, when a land sins against Me by persistent
> unfaithfulness, I will stretch out My hand against it; I will cut off
> its supply of bread, send famine on it, and cut off man and beast from
> it. Even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they
> would deliver only themselves by their righteousness," says the Lord
> GOD.
>
> If I cause wild beasts to pass through the land, and they empty it,
> and make it so desolate that no man may pass through because of the
> beasts, even though these three men were in it, as I live," says the
> Lord GOD, "they would deliver neither sons nor daughters; only they
> would be delivered, and the land would be desolate.
>
> Or if I bring a sword on that land, and say, 'Sword, go through the
> land,' and I cut off man and beast from it, even though these three
> men were in it, as I live," says the Lord GOD, "they would deliver
> neither sons nor daughters, but only they themselves would be
> delivered.
>
> Or if I send a pestilence into that land and pour out My fury on it in
> blood, and cut off from it man and beast, even though Noah, Daniel,
> and Job were in it, as I live," says the Lord GOD, "they would deliver
> neither son nor daughter; they would deliver only themselves by their
> righteousness." Ez. 14:13-20
>
> plainly said in Holy Scripture that calamities which befall men and
> nations are the result of wrong attitudes and actions toward God. as
> in Sodom and Gomorrah, the homosexual, the transvestite, the lesbian
> are burned up with fire from heaven... a picture of the wrath to come
> and a warning to those who would follow in their path of life...
>
> " Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth:
> fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness,
> which is idolatry. Because of these things the wrath of God is coming
> upon the sons of disobedience " Col. 3:5,6
>
> " For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
> ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in
> unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them,
> for God has shown it to them. " Ro. 1:18-25
>
> in conclusion to the topic it can be seen from Holy Scripture why the
> ills of the world come from. they come from man because of he loves
> sin.
>
> * Gnosticism... the sin of Eve which she brought on herself by
> desiring to be wise like God.... substituting the wisdom which God
> gives for the wisdom of the Devil. since the Fall, mankind has
> sought to be wise... but without God. he instead seeks worldly wisdom
> through his own devices thus rejecting the God of the Bible.
> Romans Chapter 1.
>
> God did not provoke Eve to take from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and
> Evil and eat. it was to her " a tree desirable to make one wise, she
> took of its fruit and ate." Gen. 3:6 blaming God for personal ills
> and the calamities which befall mankind through natural upheavals are
> the direct result of sin... " for whatever is not from faith is sin."
> Ro. 14:23