> "Reverend Dave" ministerpants.com> wrote in message
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>> "Pastor Frank" christfirst.edu> wrote in
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>>> "HiEv" wrote in message
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>>>> Pastor Frank wrote:

>>>>> WhewNotSaved wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Atheists believe that life is meaningless.

>>>>>
>>>>> Atheists don't believe anything, or they would mention their
>>>>> beliefs
>>>>> occasionally. Atheists only disbelieve.

>>>>
>>>> Bull. Atheists only have no belief in gods. They can believe all
>>>> sorts of other stuff, and do often mention that (though apparently
>>>> you're too blinded by religion to notice.)
>>>>

>>> Why then do atheists only post their numerous disbeliefs?
>>> Furthermore it
>>> should obvious, that god(s) of atheist definition cannot possibley
>>> exist, for atheists make sure of that, by giving the word the most
>>> ridiculous definition possible.

>>
>> God(s) of atheist definition? Isn't that something of an oxymoron
>> Frank? Could you perhaps give an example of a typical, ridiculous
>> definition of god(s) made by an atheist?
>>

> Sky daddy, Pink unicorn, sky pixy etc. etc. etc. do I need to go
> on?

>>>

>>>> Hey! Did you know that many Buddhists are also atheists? It's
>>>> true! Buddhism does not require a belief in any sort of creator
>>>> gods, and many Buddhists do not believe in gods or believe that the
>>>> gods are less than Buddha, who is not a god.
>>>>

>>> God is understood in Buddhism via maya, needing no futher
>>> elaboration.

>>
>> Did you mean to say via Maya (note capitalization)? If so then you
>> are talking about a Hindu diety that has nothing to do with Buddhism.
>> Maya is a godess associated with the creation of false realities.
>> Perhaps Maya has you under her power? The only Maya associated with
>> Buddhism was the Buddha's mother, Queen Maya - no relation to the
>> godess. If the maya you speak of is not either of the two mentioned
>> above then I'm afraid that you will have to elaborate.
>>

> The Sanscrit maya means illusion / dream. Therefore the we the
> dreamt
> are the illusion of the dreamer, AKA God.

>>>

>>>> Saying "atheists only disbelieve" is a sure sign that you have no
>>>> clue what "atheism" means. For your information, "atheism" means
>>>> "without a belief in god(s)." It does NOT necessarily mean an
>>>> active disbelief in the possibility of god(s), though it can mean
>>>> that too. Furthermore, "atheists" are not a monolithic group who
>>>> all feel exactly the same about everything. They just have one
>>>> thing in common, they have no belief in gods. That's it. Anything
>>>> else can be believed or not and it won't change the fact that
>>>> they're an atheist.
>>>>

>>> That proves my point. You exclusively talk about the things you
>>> DON'T believe. Whereas we Christian talk about things we DO
>>> believe.

>>
>> The difference between atheists and Christians is that atheists for
>> the most part believe in things that are observable, or proven to be
>> true.
>>

> Those have nothing in common with religion, for religion deals
> with
> qualities. I.e. the quality 'beauty' is observable but not
> scientifically quantifiable, therefore not intrinsically "proven to be
> true". The same goes for all qualities, especially character
> qualities, which are the perview of religion.

>>>

>>>>>> 2) Atheism is responsible for the greatest crimes in human
>>>>>> history.

>>>>>
>>>>> Christ's prime law is to love others and treat them as you
>>>>> would want
>>>>> to
>>>>> be treated. Atheists don't believe that too, as much as they
>>>>> disbelieve pretty much everything, else and act accordingly. See
>>>>> below

>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. "Atheism" simply means having no belief in gods. They
>>>> can believe or not believe in the "Golden Rule" if they want to.
>>>>

>>> That's a lie, for atheists post reams of calumnies and hate
>>> against what we hold holy, as well as go out of their way to flame
>>> believers.

>>
>> Of course Christians never ever do the same. Please let me know which
>> NG you read on a regular basis so that the next time Old Man Joe, or
>> others of his ilk show up in the atheist groups spewing their hatred,
>> I can crosspost it back in your direction.
>>

> By all means. I have yet to see Old Man Joe "spew hatred". He does
> a
> good job however explaining Calvinism, with which I disagree. Ad
> hominem is most commonly used by atheists, who run quickly out of
> atheist words to use, for how many ways are there to say "there ain't
> no god(s)"?