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Author: Therion WareTherion Ware Date: May 13, 2008 10:12
If you're an atheist, do you think you "chose" the become an atheist?
If some stripe of Christian, or other kind of theist did you "choose"
to believe in whatever form of Christianity/other you now espouse?
Personally I don't think, at root, people "choose" their beliefs but
rather our beliefs are are product of what we are and what we know.
This is to say, for me at least, I could no more "choose" to believe
in any form of Christianity, or any of the theist religions, than I
could "choose" to believe that the sky is green and the grass is blue,
or that 2 + 2 = 5.
But what do you think?
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Author: Fred StoneFred Stone Date: May 13, 2008 10:26
Therion Ware city-of-dis.com> wrote in
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> If you're an atheist, do you think you "chose" the become an atheist?
>
Quite the opposite. I tried very hard, between age 15 and 20 or so, to
"choose" to be a Christian, and just couldn't manage to convince myself
that I believed any more.
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Author: Therion WareTherion Ware Date: May 13, 2008 10:30
On 13 May 2008 17:26:15 GMT, Fred Stone earthling.com>
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>Therion Ware city-of-dis.com> wrote in
>news:agqg24pfrvs28avmusut1nbk51dib77mq1@4ax.com:
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>> If you're an atheist, do you think you "chose" the become an atheist?
>>
>
>Quite the opposite. I tried very hard, between age 15 and 20 or so, to
>"choose" to be a Christian, and just couldn't manage to convince myself
>that I believed any more.
Thanks for that. In due course would you be prepared to go in to more
detail?
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Author: asilentskepticasilentskeptic Date: May 13, 2008 10:30
On May 13, 10:12 am, Therion Ware city-of-dis.com> wrote:> If you're an atheist, do you think you "chose" the become an atheist?
>
> If some stripe of Christian, or other kind of theist did you "choose"
> to believe in whatever form of Christianity/other you now espouse?
>
> Personally I don't think, at root, people "choose" their beliefs but
> rather our beliefs are are product of what we are and what we know.
>
> This is to say, for me at least, I could no more "choose" to believe
> in any form of Christianity, or any of the theist religions, than I
> could "choose" to believe that the sky is green and the grass is blue,
> or that 2 + 2 = 5.
>
> But what do you think?
I definitely didn't choose to become an atheist. I fought it for
years! Struggled, studied (went to Bible college), etc.
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Author: panamfloydpanamfloyd Date: May 13, 2008 10:37
On May 13, 10:12Â am, Therion Ware city-of-dis.com> wrote:> If you're an atheist, do you think you "chose" the become an atheist?
Not really. It seemed the only choice once I discovered the truth
behind all the mythology. I suppose I could have gone onto some "New
Age" tangent, but Occam's Razor says why bother?
> If some stripe of Christian, or other kind of theist did you "choose"
> to believe in whatever form of Christianity/other you now espouse?
Nah. It was taught to me by my parents during my early childhood-at
the same time they were teaching me fire is hot, and not to stick
something metal into the electrical outlet.
> Personally I don't think, at root, people "choose" their beliefs but
> rather our beliefs are are product of what we are and what we know.
I tend to agree, especially if you include one's upbringing as part of
what makes us what we are.
> This is to say, for me at least, I could no more "choose" to believe
> in any form of Christianity, or any of the theist religions, than I
> could "choose" to believe that the sky is green and the grass is blue,
> or that 2 + 2 = 5.
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Author: chibiaboschibiabos Date: May 13, 2008 10:46
In article 4ax.com>, Therion Ware
city-of-dis.com> wrote:
> If you're an atheist, do you think you "chose" the become an atheist?
>
> If some stripe of Christian, or other kind of theist did you "choose"
> to believe in whatever form of Christianity/other you now espouse?
>
> Personally I don't think, at root, people "choose" their beliefs but
> rather our beliefs are are product of what we are and what we know.
>
> This is to say, for me at least, I could no more "choose" to believe
> in any form of Christianity, or any of the theist religions, than I
> could "choose" to believe that the sky is green and the grass is blue,
> or that 2 + 2 = 5.
>
> But what do you think?
>
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Author: Therion WareTherion Ware Date: May 13, 2008 11:00
On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:46:23 -0700, chibiabos nospam.com>
wrote:
>In article 4ax.com>, Therion Ware
>city-of-dis.com> wrote:
>>> If you're an atheist, do you think you "chose" the become an atheist?
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>> If some stripe...
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Author: Therion WareTherion Ware Date: May 13, 2008 11:01
On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:30:55 -0700 (PDT), asilentskeptic
gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 13, 10:12 am, Therion Ware city-of-dis.com> wrote:>> If you're an atheist, do you think you "chose" the become an atheist?
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>> If some stripe of Christian, or other kind of theist...
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Author: cazayouxcazayoux Date: May 13, 2008 11:04
On May 13, 12:30 pm, asilentskeptic gmail.com> wrote:
> ...I am not a "faith" person, and therefore require
> something to be evidenced.
>
> I am not an atheist because I chose to believe a god does not exist. I
> am an atheist because I chose to follow wherever the evidence led (and
> it did not point towards a god)
Hello !
I'm new to the area.
The statement above says a lot.
You have a 'belief' and you 'chose to follow .. the evidence'.
You hint that you believe there is no god because there is no solid
proof of the existence of god.
This thinking I can understand.
How can you state a firm belief that there is no god, when there is
a lack of evidence of there not being a god?
It seems that the athiesm you practice involves faith. You believe
even though there is no evidence for the belief.
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Author: asilentskepticasilentskeptic Date: May 13, 2008 11:12
> On May 13, 12:30 pm, asilentskeptic gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ...I am not a "faith" person, and therefore require
>> something to be evidenced.
>
>> I am not an atheist because I chose to believe a god does not exist. I
>> am an atheist because I chose to follow wherever the evidence led (and
>> it did not point towards a god)
>
> Hello !
>
> I'm new to the area.
> The statement above says a lot.
> You have a 'belief' and you 'chose to follow .. the evidence'.
>
> You hint that you believe there is no god because there is no solid
> proof of the existence of god.
> This thinking I can understand.
> How can you state a firm belief that there is no god, when there is ...
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