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Author: PainiusPainius Date: Jun 10, 2008 23:42
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> Painius Nicely put. NoE talks in circles (lot of hot air) to make us
> think he made his point. He tells us Einstein is wrong like so many
> others to make us belive he is smarter. Reality is it is done only to
> increase his ego. He is not hard to figure Bert
Thank you, Bert! Sometimes i do like NE's thinking
process. Just not this time. He has taken what he
believes to be a major difference in the simple math
of acceleration and has tried to use this to justify a
major flaw in Einstein's theory of relativity. Since
NE's own math is flawed in this argument, his major
flaw doesn't hold up.
I still respect his idea that space pushes in on all
matter and causes gravity. Even though he is very
much a "void-spacer", as oc calls them, he does
seem to be on a better track than most other void-
spacers.
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Author: G=EMC^2 GlazierG=EMC^2 Glazier Date: Jun 11, 2008 07:26
Painius Gravity has to be one or the other "push" or "pull" oc paints
a good picture how pushing of space energy works as gravities force. It
its a picture that needs a lot of words. however Space energy for
gravity,Space energy for matter building blocks. Space energy to keep
the "string theory alive" Space energy curving space could even keep
GR. Push is not used for magnetic fields(how come?) Attraction between
two objects with all that large space separating them even Newton's
great brain had to say "I pass" Bert
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Author: NoEinsteinNoEinstein Date: Jun 11, 2008 18:10
On Jun 11, 2:42 am, "Painius" maol.com> wrote:>> Painius  Nicely put. NoE talks in circles (lot of hot air) to make us
>> think he made his point. Â He tells us Einstein is wrong like so many
>> others to make us belive he is smarter. Reality is it is done only to
>> increase his ego.  He is not hard to figure  Bert
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> Thank you, Bert! Â Sometimes i do like NE's thinking
> process. Â Just not this time. Â He has taken what he
> believes to be a major difference in the simple math
> of acceleration and has tried to use this to justify a
> major flaw in Einstein's theory of relativity. Â Since
> NE's own math is flawed in this argument, his major
> flaw doesn't hold up.
> ...
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Author: NoEinsteinNoEinstein Date: Jun 11, 2008 18:27
On Jun 11, 10:26 am, herbertglaz...@ webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote: > Painius  Gravity has to be one or the other "push" or "pull"  oc paints
> a good picture how pushing of space energy works as gravities force. It
> its a picture that needs a lot of words. however Space energy for
> gravity,Space energy for matter building blocks. Space energy to keep
> the "string theory alive" Â Space energy curving space could even keep
> GR. Push is not used for magnetic fields(how come?) Â Attraction between
> two objects with all that large space separating them even Newton's
> great brain had to say "I pass" Â Bert
Dear Bert: Gravity is a PUSH only! — NoEinstein — :-)
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Author: G=EMC^2 GlazierG=EMC^2 Glazier Date: Jun 12, 2008 04:06
NoE I can easily make a magnetic force of attraction and repulsion a
"push force" Bert
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Author: oldcootoldcoot Date: Jun 12, 2008 05:49
On Jun 11, 6:27Â pm, NoEinstein bellsouth.net> wrote:>
> Gravity is a PUSH only!  —  :-)
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`From the mouths of babes`. Nuggets of truth from NE's overall pile of
horse puckey.
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Author: NoEinsteinNoEinstein Date: Jun 14, 2008 20:28
On Jun 12, 8:49Â am, oldcoot sbcglobal.net> wrote:> On Jun 11, 6:27Â pm, NoEinstein bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> Gravity is a PUSH only!  —  :-)
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> `From the mouths of babes`. Nuggets of truth from NE's overall pile of
> horse puckey.
Dear oldcoot: From such nutrients grow that most colorful flowers of
the prairie! — NoEinstein —
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Author: PainiusPainius Date: Jun 14, 2008 22:30
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> Painius Gravity has to be one or the other "push" or "pull" oc paints
> a good picture how pushing of space energy works as gravities force. It
> its a picture that needs a lot of words. however Space energy for
> gravity,Space energy for matter building blocks. Space energy to keep
> the "string theory alive" Space energy curving space could even keep
> GR. Push is not used for magnetic fields(how come?) Attraction between
> two objects with all that large space separating them even Newton's
> great brain had to say "I pass" Bert
Yes, Isaac Newton, with all that greatness of brain and
of his mind thinking, thinking, thinking, was unable to
piece together the complete puzzle of gravity. He did
not have enough information in his day. He was then
left with the single notion that...
God must cause gravity!
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Author: G=EMC^2 GlazierG=EMC^2 Glazier Date: Jun 15, 2008 05:48
Painius Gravity's force both push and pull I can live with. How can
you tell when you fall to the Earth you are being pushed down or pulled
down? We detect no force one way or the other. I like this because we
can think in both directions at once. Its like in my equation the "G"
can stand for God or gravity. I think the Pope would like that. I go
with gravity Bert PS I like that "Bertism" and use it when
thinking my own ideas. I'm going to do "What if" posting again. Fact
is I posted one yesterday
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Author: oldcootoldcoot Date: Jun 15, 2008 07:12
On Jun 14, 10:30Â pm, "Painius" maol.com> wrote:>
> What if?
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> What if gravity is BOTH? Â What if the SPED that is space
> does indeed PUSH in on matter causing gravity, and at
> the same time it can be said that matter is drawing in
> the SPED, PULLing it into itself?
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> In a manner of speaking one might say that a sink drain
> PULLs the water toward it while at the same time gravity
> PUSHes the water toward the drain. Â So what if we step
> back and watch from "outside the box", or better yet,
> from an "outside frame of reference", and we see that
> gravity is actually both a PUSH force AND a PULL force?
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> In a way, i think it might be both... and neither.
>
It's been stated several times (maybe while you were 'on
sabbatical':-)) that in deferance to the "pull-gravity" crowd, there ...
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