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Author: Robert Harris
Date: Nov 17, 2006 03:51

David,

Would you mind posting the top 2 or 3 pieces of evidence which support
your claim that Oswald acted alone?

Robert Harris
There is no question that an honest man will evade.

The JFK History Page
http://jfkhistory.com/
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Re: Question for David VP         


Author: David Von Pein
Date: Nov 18, 2006 00:11

1.) Oswald's very own rifle was the ONLY murder weapon. (Only bullets,
fragments, and shells from LHO's very own gun were found anywhere,
proving beyond all REASONABLE doubt that LHO's gun killed JFK.

And a reasonable person/researcher can also see that Oswald's lack of a
motive, his post-12:30 actions, and the eyewitnesses who, at the very
LEAST, saw an "Oswald-like" man in the SN window during the shooting or
just SECONDS before the shooting, provide ample indications that it was
Lee H. Oswald who killed President Kennedy.

2.) No other gunmen were seen anywhere in Dealey Plaza....no other
weapons or shells or bullets were found in the victims, the car, or
anyplace else EXCEPT THOSE ITEMS THAT FIT THE GUN OF LEE OSWALD.

3.) Oswald's crappy getaway plan indicates he was likely a lone
assassin. If he'd had an accomplice, he wouldn't have had to rely on
cabs and busses and his own two feet for his post-shooting locomotion
activities. (The "Patsy" craziness notwithstanding, of course. Because
anyone beyond kindergarten should be able to see the severe
complications and built-in problems with a "MULTI-GUN/ONE-PATSY PLOT".)
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Re: Question for David VP         


Author: David Von Pein
Date: Nov 18, 2006 03:38

1.) Oswald's very own rifle was the ONLY murder weapon. (Only bullets,
fragments, and shells from LHO's very own gun were found anywhere,
proving beyond all REASONABLE doubt that LHO's gun killed JFK.

And a reasonable person/researcher can also see that Oswald's lack of a
motive, his post-12:30 actions, and the eyewitnesses who, at the very
LEAST, saw an "Oswald-like" man in the SN window during the shooting or
just SECONDS before the shooting, provide ample indications that it was
Lee H. Oswald who killed President Kennedy.

2.) No other gunmen were seen anywhere in Dealey Plaza....no other
weapons or shells or bullets were found in the victims, the car, or
anyplace else EXCEPT THOSE ITEMS THAT FIT THE GUN OF LEE OSWALD.

3.) Oswald's crappy getaway plan indicates he was likely a lone
assassin. If he'd had an accomplice, he wouldn't have had to rely on
cabs and busses and his own two feet for his post-shooting locomotion
activities. (The "Patsy" craziness notwithstanding, of course. Because
anyone beyond kindergarten should be able to see the severe
complications and built-in problems with a "MULTI-GUN/ONE-PATSY PLOT".)
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Re: Question for David VP         


Author: chuck schuyler
Date: Nov 18, 2006 04:25

David Von Pein wrote:
> 1.) Oswald's very own rifle was the ONLY murder weapon. (Only bullets,
> fragments, and shells from LHO's very own gun were found anywhere,
> proving beyond all REASONABLE doubt that LHO's gun killed JFK.
>
> And a reasonable person/researcher can also see that Oswald's lack of a
> motive, his post-12:30 actions, and the eyewitnesses who, at the very
> LEAST, saw an "Oswald-like" man in the SN window during the shooting or
> just SECONDS before the shooting, provide ample indications that it was
> Lee H. Oswald who killed President Kennedy.
>
> 2.) No other gunmen were seen anywhere in Dealey Plaza....no other
> weapons or shells or bullets were found in the victims, the car, or
> anyplace else EXCEPT THOSE ITEMS THAT FIT THE GUN OF LEE OSWALD.
>
> 3.) Oswald's crappy getaway plan indicates he was likely a lone
> assassin. If he'd had an accomplice, he wouldn't have had to rely on
> cabs and busses and his own two feet for his post-shooting locomotion
> activities. (The "Patsy" craziness notwithstanding, of course. Because
> anyone beyond kindergarten should be able to see the severe ...
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Re: Question for David VP         


Author: David Von Pein
Date: Nov 18, 2006 04:30

>>> "Would you mind posting the top 2 or 3 pieces of evidence which
support your claim that Oswald acted alone?" <<<

1.) Oswald's very own rifle was the ONLY murder weapon. (Only bullets,
fragments, and shells from LHO's very own gun were found anywhere, proving
beyond all REASONABLE doubt that LHO's gun killed JFK.)

And a reasonable person/researcher can also see that Oswald's post-12:30
actions, coupled with the DP eyewitnesses who, at the very LEAST, saw an
"Oswald-like" man in the SN window during the shooting or just SECONDS
before the shooting, provide ample indications that it was Lee Harvey
Oswald who killed President Kennedy.

1A.) The plain old logical garden-variety equation of -- THE OWNER OF THE
MURDER WEAPON IS PROBABLY THE PERSON WHO USED IT ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963.

Can ANY CTer thoroughly and logically debunk number "1A" above?

2.) No other gunmen were seen anywhere in Dealey Plaza....and (as
mentioned in # 1, but it's worth a reprise) -- No non-Oswald weapons or
shells or bullets were found anyplace.
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Re: Question for David VP         


Author: David Von Pein
Date: Nov 18, 2006 07:15

>>> "How in the world can any "reasonable person/researcher" consider that
"Oswald's lack of a motive" provides any indication let alone your "ample
indication" in full or in part that it was Oswald who killed President
Kennedy?" <<<

LOL. Yeah....I was hoping no crack CTer would notice that error. (Hence,
the reason I have since deleted that post and have re-written it, sans
that comment re. "motive", which indeed made no sense at all.)

I have no idea what exactly I was trying to say when I posted that remark
about "lack of motive"....I must have been very tired and was hurrying. I
looked at it again today, and said to myself: WTF??? Then I quickly
reached for the "Remove" button on that post.

LOL.
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Re: Question for David VP         


Author: James K. Olmstead
Date: Nov 18, 2006 18:52

David: You make some strong points, however you may have been thinking
ahead of yourself. I'm sure you meant "alibi". BTW I'm no CTer, I support
no published CT.

However if you did in fact mean "alibi" you have almost the same problem.
Oswald may have had an "alibi", although it does has some problems because
of how some statements were presented.

It would have far fewer problems had one of the members of the steno staff
(5 hanging around as indicated by Judge Johnson) actually take some
offical notes.

jko

"David Von Pein" aol.com> wrote in message news:1163821634.295352.167120@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>>> "How in the world can any "reasonable person/researcher" consider that
> "Oswald's...
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Re: Question for David VP         


Author: Donald Willis
Date: Nov 18, 2006 18:55

In article <1163828168.683230.107210@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, David Von
Pein says...
>
>>>>"The similar stats seemed to suggest just the opposite of what you concluded--to
>>>>suggest, that is, that Baker & Brennan could have gotten the same numbers, from
>>>>vastly different vantage points & distances, only with outside help." <<<
>
>Absolute nonsense, Don.
>
>You're accusing Brennan or Baker (or both) of deliberately falsifying
>the info that each gave in his respective sworn 11/22/63 affidavit --
>which were documents that were filled out and signed within a mere
>hours (or maybe minutes?) after they saw what they saw.
>
>Who gave their statement (affidavit) FIRST, Don? Was it Brennan, or
>Baker? I really don't know for certain, but I would guess that
>Brennan's affidavit was filled out and signed first, because we know
>that Sorrels took him to the sheriff's office very shortly after 1:00
>PM...
and Officer Baker was on duty, of course, and probably filled out ...
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Re: Question for David VP         


Author: Ricky
Date: Nov 19, 2006 03:24

On 17 Nov 2006 21:38:27 -0500, "David Von Pein" aol.com>
wrote:
>1.) Oswald's very own rifle was the ONLY murder weapon. (Only bullets,
>fragments, and shells from LHO's very own gun were found anywhere,
>proving beyond all REASONABLE doubt that LHO's gun killed JFK.
>
Absurd. You are assuming all places were searched and all fragments
and bullets were recovered.
>And a reasonable person/researcher can also see that Oswald's lack of a
>motive, his post-12:30 actions, and the eyewitnesses who, at the very
>LEAST, saw an "Oswald-like" man in the SN window during the shooting or
>just SECONDS before the shooting, provide ample indications that it was
>Lee H. Oswald who killed President Kennedy.
>
Yes such a case can be made but it is not enough to convict.
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Re: Question for David VP         


Author: Robert Harris
Date: Nov 19, 2006 03:39

In article <1163819246.131747.274480@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"David Von Pein" aol.com> wrote:
>>>> "Would you mind posting the top 2 or 3 pieces of evidence which
> support your claim that Oswald acted alone?" <<<
>
>
> 1.) Oswald's very own rifle was the ONLY murder weapon.

That is not evidence, David. It is an unsupported assertion, which
contradicts the vast majority of evidence and testimony.
> (Only bullets,
> fragments, and shells from LHO's very own gun were found anywhere, proving
> beyond all REASONABLE doubt that LHO's gun killed JFK.)

That argument is both false and ridiculously illogical.

First of all, we already know that the stretcher bullet was not the same
as CE-399, since every person who handled it before it went to the FBI,
refused to confirm it.

And secondly, you have no way of knowing where all fragments came from,
since most of them were never even tested.
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