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Re: Mellen's and her star witness don't fare too well with McAdams         


Author: timstter
Date: Jan 23, 2008 01:18

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The only *star witness* worse than Thomas Edward Beckham is Judyth
Vary Baker.

Neither has any credibility.

Both have made up fairy tales about Oswald's time in New Orleans in
1963.

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup Commentator*

On Jan 22, 11:06 am, Pamela McElwain-Brown mindspring.com>
wrote:
> Thomas Edward Beckham is certainly a colorful figure.  Debate about him
> ranges far and wide.  Was he a con man?  Was he for...
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Re: Mellen's and her star witness don't fare too well with McAdams         


Author: Pamela McElwain-Brown
Date: Jan 23, 2008 02:07

On Jan 22, 12:10 am, John McAdams marquette.edu> wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2008 23:19:40 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
>
>
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> mindspring.com> wrote:
>>On Jan 21, 8:14 pm, John McAdams marquette.edu> wrote:
>>> On 21 Jan 2008 21:06:48 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
>
>>> mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>Thomas Edward Beckham is certainly a colorful figure.  Debate about him
>>>>ranges far and wide.  Was he a con man?  Was he for real? Why did he lie?  
>>>>Do we know when he is telling the truth?
>
>>>>This curious character plays a central role in Mellen's long-awaited book
>>>>AF2J.  One would think those on the net would be allowed to examine
>>>>objectively the various aspects of his character and experiences, in order
>>>>to determine for ourselves his credibility and value. ...
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Re: Mellen's and her star witness don't fare too well with McAdams         


Author: Anthony Marsh
Date: Jan 23, 2008 02:14

Barb Junkkarinen wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2008 21:06:48 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
> mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> Thomas Edward Beckham is certainly a colorful figure. Debate about him
>> ranges far and wide. Was he a con man? Was he for real? Why did he lie?
>> Do we know when he is telling the truth?
>>
>> This curious character plays a central role in Mellen's long-awaited book
>> AF2J. One would think those on the net would be allowed to examine
>> objectively the various aspects of his character and experiences, in order
>> to determine for ourselves his credibility and value.
>>
>> But John, in his inimitable WC apologist style, has managed to create a
>> page for AF2J that attempts (of course) to diminish the significance of
>> the book in general and, in particular, create the impression that Beckham
>> does not deserve to be believed:
>>
>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/mellen.htm
>> ...
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Re: Mellen's and her star witness don't fare too well with McAdams         


Author: Barb Junkkarinen
Date: Jan 23, 2008 03:09

On 22 Jan 2008 19:18:10 -0500, timstter@gmail.com wrote:
>TOP POST
>
>The only *star witness* worse than Thomas Edward Beckham is Judyth
>Vary Baker.
>
>Neither has any credibility.
>
>Both have made up fairy tales about Oswald's time in New Orleans in
>1963.

In this case, that would be .... uh ... Ferrie tales.

Barb :-)
>
>Regards,
>
>Tim Brennan
>Sydney, Australia
>*Newsgroup Commentator*
>
>On Jan 22, 11:06 am, Pamela McElwain-Brown mindspring.com>
>wrote:
>> Thomas Edward Beckham is certainly a colorful...
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Re: Mellen's and her star witness don't fare too well with McAdams either         


Author: John McAdams
Date: Jan 23, 2008 06:11

On 22 Jan 2008 19:13:27 -0500, "Martin Shackelford"
sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>I guess, then, that we can skip the FBI and Secret Service reports of
>witness statements, being hearsay and all.
>

They count as primary sources, but there are significant errors in
some of them, most certainly.

The Lovelady "wearing the shirt he wore at the time of the
assassination" FBI report may be the most famous.

But then there are things like Hudson indentifying the TSBD in the
Moorman Polaroid.

No primary source is perfect.

However, some witnesses are really totally unreliable. Beckham is one
of those.
>Martin
>
>"John McAdams" marquette.edu> wrote in message
>news:8bkap3logn3fgcj1rbufopmalas6itupc6@4ax.com...
>> On 21 Jan 2008 21:06:48 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
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Re: Mellen's and her star witness don't fare too well with McAdams         


Author: John McAdams
Date: Jan 23, 2008 06:20

On 22 Jan 2008 20:07:26 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Jan 22, 12:10 am, John McAdams marquette.edu> wrote:
>> On 21 Jan 2008 23:19:40 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
>>
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>>
>> mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>On Jan 21, 8:14 pm...
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Re: Mellen and her star witness don't fare too well with McAdams         


Author: Pamela McElwain-Brown
Date: Jan 23, 2008 06:33

On Jan 21, 11:13 pm, Barb Junkkarinen comcast.net>
wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2008 23:20:38 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
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>
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> mindspring.com> wrote:
>>On Jan 21, 9:17 pm, Barb Junkkarinen comcast.net>
>>wrote:
>>> On 21 Jan 2008 21:06:48 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
>
>>> mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>Thomas Edward Beckham is certainly a colorful figure.  Debate about him
>>>>ranges far and wide.  Was he a con man?  Was he for real? Why did he lie?  
>>>>Do we know when he is telling the truth?
>
>>>>This curious character plays a central role in Mellen's long-awaited book
>>>>AF2J.  One would think those on the net would be allowed to examine ...
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Re: Mellen and her star witness don't fare too well with McAdams         


Author: Barb Junkkarinen
Date: Jan 23, 2008 09:33

On 23 Jan 2008 00:33:10 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
mindspring.com> wrote:
>On Jan 21, 11:13 pm, Barb Junkkarinen comcast.net>
>wrote:
>> On 21 Jan 2008 23:20:38 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
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>>
>>
>> mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>On Jan 21, 9:17 pm...
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Re: Mellen's and her star witness don't fare too well with McAdams         


Author: Pamela McElwain-Brown
Date: Jan 23, 2008 23:01

On Jan 22, 11:20 pm, John McAdams marquette.edu> wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2008 20:07:26 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
>
>
>
>
>
> mindspring.com> wrote:
>>On Jan 22, 12:10 am, John McAdams marquette.edu> wrote:
>>> On 21 Jan 2008 23:19:40 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
>
>>> mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>On Jan 21, 8:14 pm, John McAdams marquette.edu> wrote:
>>>>> On 21 Jan 2008 21:06:48 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
>
>>>>> mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Thomas Edward Beckham is certainly a colorful figure.  Debate about him
>>>>>>ranges far and wide.  Was he a con man?  Was he for real? Why did he lie?  
>>>>>>Do we know when he is telling the truth?
> ...
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Re: Mellen's and her star witness don't fare too well with McAdams         


Author: Pamela McElwain-Brown
Date: Jan 24, 2008 05:13

On Jan 22, 7:14 pm, Anthony Marsh comcast.net> wrote:
> Barb Junkkarinen wrote:
>> On 21 Jan 2008 21:06:48 -0500, Pamela McElwain-Brown
>> mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>> Thomas Edward Beckham is certainly a colorful figure.  Debate about him
>>> ranges far and wide.  Was he a con man?  Was he for real? Why did he lie?  
>>> Do we know when he is telling the truth?
>
>>> This curious character plays a central role in Mellen's long-awaited book
>>> AF2J.  One would think those on the net would be allowed to examine
>>> objectively the various aspects of his character and experiences, in order
>>> to determine for ourselves his credibility and value.
>
>>> But John, in his inimitable WC apologist style, has managed to create a
>>> page for AF2J that attempts (of course) to diminish the significance of
>>> the book in general and, in particular, create the impression that Beckham
>>> does not deserve to be believed:
>
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