http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/ Posts for alt.activism.d Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:26:20 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/ http://www.nnseek.com/img/64.png 64 64 NNSeek http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/us_to_iran_you_have_two_weeks_91988791t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/us_to_iran_you_have_two_weeks_91988791t.html alphalink.com.au> wrote:
> Iran was given a fortnight to agree to freeze its uranium enrichment
> programme yesterday or face further international isolation.The US
> warned Tehran that it must choose between co-operation and confrontation
> and give up sensitive nuclear work after high-level talks in Geneva made
> little progress.
>
> Iran given two-week deadline to end the nuclear impasse
>
>     * Julian Borger in Geneva
>     * The Observer,
>     * Sunday July 20, 2008
>
> Iran was given a fortnight to agree to freeze its uranium enrichment
> programme yesterday or face further international isolation.
>
> After a day of inconclusive talks in Geneva, a six-nation negotiating
> team warned the Iranian delegation that it had run out of patience and
> demanded a 'yes or no' answer to a proposal it put forward five weeks ago.
>
> Under that offer, sponsored jointly by the US, Britain, France, Germany,
> Russia and China, Iran would not expand its uranium enrichment
> programme, while the international community refrained from imposing
> further sanctions. This phase would last six weeks, possibly paving the
> way for suspension of enrichment and more comprehensive talks.
>
> The failure to reach agreement appeared likely to trigger new European
> and UN sanctions and to raise tensions in the Gulf. An Iranian rejection
> would also represent a rebuff to conciliatory moves from Washington,
> including the dispatch of a senior diplomat to Geneva to attend
> high-level talks with the Iranians for the first time in nearly three
> decades. The diplomat, William Burns, left Geneva without making any
> public comments.
>
> Javier Solana, the European Union foreign policy chief leading the
> international negotiating team, said the talks were 'constructive', but
> admitted: 'We didn't get the answer we were hoping for. I hope very much
> we will get an answer to our question presented five weeks ago and we
> hope we will get it in two weeks.'
>
> Solana would not specify what the consequences would be if there was no
> positive response from Iran in the next fortnight, but Western officials
> at the talks said there was consensus among the six nations, including
> Russia and China, that it would be interpreted as a rejection and
> trigger a new round of UN Security Council sanctions.
>
> 'They have been told this is your last meeting. We are not doing this
> again. Go back to Tehran and you have a week or two at most to give a
> yes or no,' one official said.
>
> Another Western source involved in the talks said: 'There was some
> impatience voiced by a number of people at the meeting that we want a
> clear answer.'
>
> Asked at a press conference, the chief nuclear negotiator for Iran and
> head of its delegation, Saeed Jalili, ducked a direct opinion on the
> freeze proposal. 'We have been talking about that for many hours,'
> Jalili said. 'What is more important is for us to have a constructive
> approach and bring that approach to the table, so that we can later deal
> with our shared worries and concerns.'
>
> A negotiating document presented at the meeting by Jalili and seen by
> The Observer also talked vaguely about future co-operation but did not
> directly mention Iran's nuclear activities. In the next few days the
> European Union is due to approve new financial sanctions aimed at
> Tehran's banking system. Those are likely to be followed by a fresh
> round of Security Council talks in September on stepping up
> international sanctions, although both Russia and China oppose radical
> measures.
>
> The US and Britain have also raised the possibility of pursuing an
> embargo of Iran's oil industry, including a block on imports of petrol
> and diesel. And the breakdown of talks is likely to strengthen the
> urgings of hawks in Israel for pre-emptive military action to halt
> Iran's nuclear programme.
>
> Western officials in Geneva said that they were encouraged that all six
> nations represented in the Solana delegation, including Russia and
> China, presented a common front and made repeated efforts to urge Jalili
> to focus on the 'freeze for freeze' proposal.
>
> The meeting took place in Geneva's 16th-century town hall, in the same
> room that the Red Cross was founded and the first Geneva convention on
> the treatment of war wounded was signed in 1864.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/20/iran.nuclear
> ________________________________________
>
> Co-operation Or Conflict, US Warns
>
> Sky News 6:49pm UK, Saturday July 19, 2008
>
> The US warned Tehran that it must choose between co-operation and
> confrontation and give up sensitive nuclear work after high-level talks
> in Geneva made little progress.
>
> State Department spokesman Sean McCormack made his comments after Iran's
> chief negotiator Saeed Jalili ruled out discussion on suspending uranium
> enrichment.
>
> Representatives from the two nations, along with five others, took part
> in one-day talks aimed at ending the long-running dispute over Tehran's
> nuclear programme.
>
> Mr Jalili said that Iran was not ready to discuss a freeze proposed in
> return for a halt in further UN sanctions.
>
> EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana told Iran it must give a "clear
> answer" to an offer made by world powers within two weeks.
>
> The high-level US participation in the one-day meeting in Geneva had
> raised hopes of progress and helped ease record oil prices.
>
> Iranian comments playing down the likelihood of an attack by the US and
> Israel had also raised levels of optimism.
>
> But this was tempered by US insistence that despite the presence of its
> envoy William Burns, real negotiations could not begin until Iran
> adandoned enrichment.
>
> Tehran has repeatedly rejected the move.
>
> A senior diplomat told the conference: "The freeze-for-freeze issue
> cannot be accepted because this (enrichment) is our right and we will
> never abandon our nuclear right."
>
> EU envoy Javier Solana told reporters after the Geneva talks that he and
> Mr Jalili would soon speak either by telephone or personally.
>
> "The meeting was constructive, but we still didn't get the answer we
> were looking for," Mr Solana said.
>
> Mr Jalili said Tehran would remain constructive, and urged Western
> powers not to turn away from negotiations.
>
> "Iran is calling on the Western powers to resume the dialogue," he said.

all i can ask, what country was the first to drop the BOMB? the bloody
americans!

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]]> Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:09:12 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/u_s_government_holds_patents_to_medical_marijuana_91077687t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/u_s_government_holds_patents_to_medical_marijuana_91077687t.html who believes that the drug wars are misguided, ruinous and unfair,
should take a moment to send a copy of (or a link to) this patent, to
their respective legislators. Remember, the Hinchely/Rohrabacher
amendment, which protects medical cannabis users from Federal
prosecution, is coming up soon for a vote. Let's get it passed this
time.

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]]> Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:17:16 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/another_organized_tantrum_by_the_attention_whores_in_90987063t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/another_organized_tantrum_by_the_attention_whores_in_90987063t.html comcast.net> wrote:
> An emotional Bush at last Fourth of July as president
>
> Johanna Neuman
> Los Angeles Times
> July 4, 2008
>
> It was his last Fourth of July as president -- and his first  visit to
> Monticello, the home of the author of the Declaration of Independence,
> Thomas Jefferson. It was not a long trip. It took the presidential party 40
> minutes by helicopter from the White House -- plus a 10-minute motorcade --
> to arrive at the home Jefferson built for himself and his family in
> Charlottesville, Va.
>
> The president's stated purpose was to welcome and attend the swearing-in of
> 72 new citizens from 30 countries, including one from Burma. But his voice
> showed emotion when he talked about spreading freedom to other countries,
> one of his stated rationales for the war in Iraq. Quoting Jefferson as
> saying that the principles of the Declaration were universal, Bush said: "We
> honor Jefferson's legacy by aiding the rise of liberty in lands that do not
> know the blessings of freedom." Without mentioning Iraq, Afghanistan or the
> war on terrorism, he added, "And on this Fourth of July, we pay tribute to
> the brave men and women who wear the uniform of the United States of
> America." Watch the video here.
>
> Bush was interrupted repeatedly by protesters, shouting  "Defend the
> Constitution, Impeach Bush!" and "War Criminal!" Bush diverged from his
> prepared remarks to respond to the hecklers, explaining to America's newest
> citizens, "We believe in free speech in the United States of America."

Bush showed far more class than the rude, arrogant narcissists who
hijacked a special day (naturalization ceremony for new US citizens)
in order to throw their little tantrum. The Pink Pajama Grannies and
their girly-men followers are nothing but a bunch of despicable
attention whores who have NO consideration whatsoever for people who
merely want to celebrate the birthday of their newly adopted country
in a non-partisan, non-political manner. The only good thing that came
out of that display was that these assholes once again shoot
themselves and their own cause in the foot...

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]]> Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:48:33 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/lilly_may_have_to_pay_900_million_in_canada_s_zyprexa_90938423t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/lilly_may_have_to_pay_900_million_in_canada_s_zyprexa_90938423t.html without having to be subjected to side effects that are even more
devstating. Because of Zyprexa I have diabetes, because of the
diabetes I have nerve damage in my right leg, chronic kidney problems,
and problems with my vision. If I had have been told that this was my
outlook if I took Zyprexa I never ever never would have taken not one
pill....seriously there is no way!
But Eli Lilly knew well before the drug even went on the market that
this drug caused patients to have increased blood sugar, shame on you
Lilly shame!

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]]> Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:48:09 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/smygo_bush_admin_copied_chicom_torture_techniques_90811703t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/smygo_bush_admin_copied_chicom_torture_techniques_90811703t.html
> News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6o7u6p
> July 2, 2008
> China Inspired Interrogations at Guantanamo
> By SCOTT SHANE
>
> WASHINGTON The military trainers who came to Guantanamo Bay in
> December 2002 based an entire interrogation class on a chart showing the
> effects of coercive management techniques for possible use on
> prisoners, including sleep deprivation, prolonged constraint, and
> exposure.
>
> What the trainers did not say, and may not have known, was that their
> chart had been copied verbatim from a 1957 Air Force study of Chinese
> Communist techniques used during the Korean War to obtain confessions,
> many of them false, from American prisoners.
>

The waterboarding no doubt came from Nazi Germany, which Prescott Bush was
intimately involved with. Military trainers don't need to go to any
particular other country to learn torture. It comes from all over and
throughout history.

--
Peace,
Fred
(Remove FFFf from my email address to reply by email).

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]]> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:29:21 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/jarrulevyjen_kuluminen_90570807t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.activism.d/jarrulevyjen_kuluminen_90570807t.html kirjoitelleille muodostuu illuusio siitä,että ikäänkuin identtiteetti olisi
täällä jollain mystisellä tasvalla suojassa. Väärä luulo. Linjojen
pitäjillä/SUPO:lla kun on lakimääre tunnistaa KAIKKI kirjoittajanimet, koska
netti rinnastetaan juridiesti lehtikirjoituksiin. Yhtä kaikki tuli tuosta
nimimerkki kampamaneeti alias Ilkka Karailan, eli tutummin IK:n
kirjoituksista mieleeni esitellä ihan vaan lystänä pintaraapaisuna joitain
täällä kirjoittavia aavistuksen syvemmältä. Huomaa en tässä nyt keskity
tyhjänpäiväisiin elektroniikkanettinsinööristön mitä lie "FK" tyyppisiin
ketään kiinnostamattomiin. Vaan ihan lihaa ja verta oleviin inehmoihin.
Aivan siis hiillostavan hempeä pintaraapaisu toki.

Nimimerkki Nano ihmetteli, että miksi netti oli muuttunut työneurottiasta
kertovaksi rekrytointi-ilmoitussetiksi hänen poissa ollessaan? Oikein hyvä
kysymys, mutta tutkaillan ine. Esimerkiksi tosiaan tämä kampamaneetti =
IK.=Ilkka Karaila oli siis töissä firmassa, joka alkoi selkeästi miten
sanoisin "ekologistaa" toimenkuvaansa. Mikä oli tietysti ydinvetoiselle
vihamieliselle kaverille paikka lentäytyä ulos etsimään elämälleen uutta
paukkumustempaa suuntaa. No selvä se tietysti, että ydinkiimainen kolo jäi
vaivaamaan loppuelämäkseen, oi ja voi. Sitten esim. mielenkiintoinen tapaus
Untamo. Kaveri oli intomielellä hakenut töihin oliko se nyt STUK:n ydinalaan
liittyviin hommeleihin. Ihan kivasti aukesi jobit. Ja sai riemukseen jopa
koeaikaa valtiomonopolisessa firmassa. Vaan ah ja voi mokasi ja tiputus
tuli. No sen perään kun tällaiset kavertit lukee kaltaisistani ydintöihin
"ns. päässeistä" ja sielä vuosikymmenet pyyteettä ahkeroineitten aitoja
tuntoja ja faktoja. .. Ja ennenkaikkea murskaavista ydinilluusioiden
totaaliromahteluista, niin menee se toki Untamaloilla& kump. ydinmaselle,
menee. Katkeruus on kova pala illuusioromahteluissaan, kun heitä viisaammat
osaa.

Toki voisin keskustella tähän taustoiksi vaikka tapaus mm. Anssi H.
katkeroituneen, petetyn ydinalainsun nettiruppanan maksetuista
myyräntöistään TVO:n toimenkuvana täällä, mutta (haukotus), ketä oikeesti
kiinostaa tuollaiset paskan vertaa?) .. No sitten vaikka klassikko
Uudenkaupungin Matti Lehtiniemi. Eläkkeelle lahoamaan jätetty (OL-3
projekteista poislemppauksista) katkeroitunut kaveri joka on koko sakista
muuten ainoa joka on saanut ihan OIKEASTI myös näyttävyyttä aikaan! Siitä
hänelle rehti lippisnosto toki. Sai SUPO:n listoillaan suorastaan hyppimään
seinille, kun kaatoi nimissäni puolet Suomen nettiverkostoa. Komennettiin
hermolepoon Battajalle ja toivottiin ettei ihan heti palaisi sikailemaan.
Vaan näyttää se taas hän täällä nimenvaihdoin skrivaavaan kiivaasti.

Jottei menisi ihan pelkkään mömmöilyyn niin sitten valtavasta arkistostani
vielä eräs esimerkki. Pauli Keinänen. Otan hänet tähän lopuksi enempi
verrokisksi kaikille yllämainitsemiini. Eli Pauli on töissä VTT:n
tuulihuulihommissa. Käy milloin Tanskassa ja vastaavilla alansa
komennuksillaan. Tietäisi sielä rakentuvista jopa 10MW ja 80-90%%
tuulipysyvyyslaitteista paljon. Mutta koska Suomen ydinala sensuroi, ja
sabotoi tuulialaa kylmästi kaveri ei uskalla kertoa sanan sanaa näistä yli
300m korkeista näkemistään energiatulevaisuuden komistuksista. Ja toki se
katkeroittaa myös nettinärään, ettei uskalla puhua elämäntyöstään mitään
nyky-ydinterron alla. En ihmettele yhtään. No tässä näitä ja lisää tietysti
tykittää jahka "HALUATTE?" tietää lisää.)

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