"Bear" gmail.com> wrote in message
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Helping people into work is my day job and we see people from all over
Eastern Europe who arrive here being promised work and then it doesn't
materialise and without talking out of turn or playing the blame game most
of the time they get very little public assistance. worse still are those
who have been working and either become ill or lose their jobs to discover
their employer has not (as is the employers responsibility) sorted out their
workers registration documentation and then they despite paying in, are not
entitled to public benefit - I think it is wrong as they find themselves
penalised because their former employer hasn't complied with legislation.

Then we get folks who arrive here as asylum seekers who are given indefinate
leave to remain which also allows them to register for work - many have been
dreadfully traumatised by the experience that made them flee their country
of origin.

Then we get folks who see selling the big issue or the Irish version of it
Irelands Issues who are managed by the equivalent of gangmasters here they
sell these during the day and then move onto the roses outside the pubs and
clubs during the evening some not all also hassle people at ATM machines and
many of them whilst irksome are also exploited by others higher up the food
chain who do speak the same language (often Bulgarian or Romanian)

Current immigration laws in my view are an absolute mess and leave the most
exploitable open to exploitation. and of course, UK/NI and Ireland have been
very happy to sup very deeply from the european well and are pardon the pun,
well down the pecking order in terms of need now we have the baltic states,
Bulgaria and Romania all much more needy in terms of infrastructure and all
things euro.

Whether its a person flogging the homeless magazine or another working for
next to nothing in a meat processing factory often doing the jobs that
benefit rich "local labour wouldn't touch with a barge pole, the issue is
poverty V Wealth and by wealth I mean not just money but access to services
and networks and know how.

Sorry if this seems like a rant, I am as able for the more flippant comment
as everyone else but when I had a bit of a think about this I felt I needed
to be serious for a bit too :o)

Soozle