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Author: Viva
Date: May 23, 2008 04:51

The term "humble pie" comes from the food "umble pie", a pie consisting of
the innards of deer, which very poor people in Medieval England ate. To be
forced to "eat umble pie" was to be considered one of the lowest in the
social order.

US slaves made wonderful tasty meals from the Master's leftovers. Today it's
called "soul food" and there are entire restaurants devoted to it. I was
raised on soul food but we just called it "country cooking" ...thrifty
grandparents didn't waste a thing.
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Author: Geep
Date: May 23, 2008 07:04

In message <69npduF3342jpU1@mid.individual.net>, Viva privacy.net>
writes
>raised on soul food but we just called it "country cooking" ...thrifty
>grandparents didn't waste a thing.
>
Funny that. I was talking about my grandparents a few days ago, and it
occurred to me that they probably never, ever ate fruit or vegetables
that were not in season. Grandad had a garden and allotment, both
devoted to fruit and vegetables, and what they ate was whatever happened
to be ready at the time.

I suppose that is not strictly true - fruit was preserved in Kilner
jars, for latter use, and some stuff was pickled. Apples and potatoes
were stored, but their veggies each day were always whatever Grandad had
grown. They didn't have a fridge until very late in life, and never a
freezer. Didn't need one.
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Author: Molesworth
Date: May 23, 2008 09:01

In article binnsroad.demon.co.uk>,
Geep nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <69npduF3342jpU1@mid.individual.net>, Viva privacy.net>
> writes
>>raised on soul food but we just called it "country cooking" ...thrifty
>>grandparents didn't waste a thing.
>>
> Funny that. I was talking about my grandparents a few days ago, and it
> occurred to me that they probably never, ever ate fruit or vegetables
> that were not in season. Grandad had a garden and allotment, both
> devoted to fruit and vegetables, and what they ate was whatever happened
> to be ready at the time.

I can remember my disappointment when my mum said 'we can't do chips
because all we have are new potatoes'.

('New Potatoes' are UK-speak for first crop of the season - it's not the
same thing inn USA)

But at the same time loved those small round potatoes boiled with butter
and a bit of mint.. Yum!
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Author: Geep
Date: May 23, 2008 09:17

In message news.lga.highwinds-media.com>,
Molesworth bellsouth.net> writes
>In article binnsroad.demon.co.uk>,
> Geep nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>> Funny that. I was talking about my grandparents a few days ago, and it
>> occurred to me that they probably never, ever ate fruit or vegetables
>> that were not in season. Grandad had a garden and allotment, both
>> devoted to fruit and vegetables, and what they ate was whatever happened
>> to be ready at the time.
>
>I can remember my disappointment when my mum said 'we can't do chips
>because all we have are new potatoes'.

Yes! I had forgotten that. No chips or roast tatties during new potato
season :-)

--
Geep
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Author: Viva
Date: May 24, 2008 10:49

"Geep" nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote...
> In message <69npduF3342jpU1@mid.individual.net>, Viva privacy.net>
> writes
>>raised on soul food but we just called it "country cooking" ...thrifty
>>grandparents didn't waste a thing.
>>
> Funny that. I was talking about my grandparents a few days ago, and it
> occurred to me that they probably never, ever ate fruit or vegetables that
> were not in season. Grandad had a garden and allotment, both devoted to
> fruit and vegetables, and what they ate was whatever happened to be ready
> at the time.
>
> I suppose that is not strictly true - fruit was preserved in Kilner jars,
> for latter use, and some stuff was pickled. Apples and potatoes were
> stored, but their veggies each day were always whatever Grandad had grown.
> They didn't have a fridge until very late in life, and never a freezer.
> Didn't need one.
> [..]
>
Hiya Geepster, you bring back happy memories from my childhood. My folks ...
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Author: Geep
Date: May 29, 2008 09:43

In message <69r2q6F33mj19U1@mid.individual.net>, Viva privacy.net>
writes
>"Geep" nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote...
>>
>> I suppose that is not strictly true - fruit was preserved in Kilner jars,
>> for latter use, and some stuff was pickled. Apples and potatoes were
>> stored, but their veggies each day were always whatever Grandad had grown.
>>
>Hiya Geepster, you bring back happy memories from my childhood. My folks
>were poor but we ate like kings. Smoked hams and bacon to die for, fried
>chicken every Sunday. I remember all those shining jars of veggies and
>fruit -- tomatoes, beans, corn, relish, peach and pear jam, apple butter,
>watermelon rind preserves [1] -- all lined up on shelves down in the
>cellar...waiting for winter. We call it "canning".

Yes, I recall we discussed canning ages ago. Took me a long
time to realise than Americans refer to putting stuff in glass as
canning. Same thing, though. I'm sure your shops are the same...
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Date: May 29, 2008 13:08

"Geep" nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ys+3q6NZ0tPIFw3b@binnsroad.demon.co.uk...
> In message <69r2q6F33mj19U1@mid.individual.net>, Viva privacy.net>
> writes
>>"Geep" nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote...
>>>
>>> I suppose that is not strictly true - fruit was preserved in Kilner
>>> jars,
>>> for latter use, and some stuff was pickled. Apples and potatoes were
>>> stored, but their veggies each day were always whatever Grandad had
>>> grown.
>>>
>>Hiya Geepster, you bring back happy memories from my childhood. My folks
>>were poor but we ate like kings. Smoked hams and bacon to die for, fried
>>chicken every Sunday. I remember all those shining jars of veggies and
>>fruit -- tomatoes, beans, corn, relish, peach and pear jam, apple butter,
>>watermelon rind preserves [1] -- all lined up on shelves down in the
>>cellar...waiting for winter. We call it "canning".
>
> Yes, I recall we discussed canning ages ago. Took me a long time ...
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Author: Viva
Date: May 30, 2008 18:15

"Geep" nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ys+3q6NZ0tPIFw3b@binnsroad.demon.co.uk...
[..]
> ..... Probably a silly question, but do you have mincemeat in the US?
> Nothing to do with meat - a thick, dark mixture of stuff like currents,
> sultanas, raisins, suet etc. Divine in mince pies :-)
> --
>
Yes indeed. Most cooks buy it ready-made in jars these days...and I really
can't tell the difference between that and what my Gran made from scratch.
Mincemeat pies are part of our Thanksgiving tradition.
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Author: Odd
Date: Jun 1, 2008 21:59

In article <6abn60F36rga0U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Viva" privacy.net> wrote:
> "Geep" nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ys+3q6NZ0tPIFw3b@binnsroad.demon.co.uk...
> [..]
>> ..... Probably a silly question, but do you have mincemeat in the US?
>> Nothing to do with meat - a thick, dark mixture of stuff like currents,
>> sultanas, raisins, suet etc. Divine in mince pies :-)
>> --
>>
> Yes indeed. Most cooks buy it ready-made in jars these days...and I really
> can't tell the difference between that and what my Gran made from scratch.
> Mincemeat pies are part of our Thanksgiving tradition.

It matters here, though, which brand of mincemeat in jars one buys. I
generally hold out for the pricier imported stuff. I relented last time
and bought some of the leftpondia-made stuff. It just ... wasn't as
good.

Odd
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Author: Viva
Date: Jun 2, 2008 09:20

"Odd" n.com> wrote in message
news:n-9E31AA.21595901062008@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
> In article <6abn60F36rga0U1@mid.individual.net>,
> "Viva" privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> "Geep" nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:ys+3q6NZ0tPIFw3b@binnsroad.demon.co.uk...
>> [..]
>>> ..... Probably a silly question, but do you have mincemeat in the US?
>>> Nothing to do with meat - a thick, dark mixture of stuff like currents,
>>> sultanas, raisins, suet etc. Divine in mince pies :-)
>>>
>> Yes indeed. Most cooks buy it ready-made in jars these days...and I
>> really
>> can't tell the difference between that and what my Gran made from
>> scratch.
>> Mincemeat pies are part of our Thanksgiving tradition.
>
> It matters here, though, which brand of mincemeat in jars one buys. I
> generally hold out for the pricier imported stuff. I relented last time ...
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