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Author: JennyCJennyC Date: Feb 12, 2008 10:49
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Author: HumbugHumbug Date: Feb 12, 2008 15:36
>JennyC wrote:
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>I see the research is sponsored by the iBtso peeps,
>the well-known molishers of meat-free "gravy" granules.
Ah.
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Author: Sweet-peaSweet-pea Date: Feb 13, 2008 00:25
"Halla" drunkenbastards.spam.com> wrote in message
news:jng4r3568sqsv2h9e3o6o4ij661j40r4c2@4ax.com...
>>JennyC wrote:
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>>I see the research is sponsored by the iBtso peeps,
>>the well-known molishers of meat-free "gravy" granules.
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> I was disappointed to note that the chicken-flavoured gravy I got from
> Tescoids the other week was not marked as suitabel for veggies,
> although apparently containing no chicken at all. I was further
> alarmed to note that actually, it makes quite nice gravy. :-/
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Some additives are animal derived and some veggies are fussy about that. I
can't remember which E-numbers it was now. ...
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Author: Flash GordonFlash Gordon Date: Feb 14, 2008 15:06
Halla wrote, On 13/02/08 21:05:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:25:01 GMT, "Sweet-pea"
> ntlworld.com> blethered:
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>> "Halla" drunkenbastards.spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:jng4r3568sqsv2h9e3o6o4ij661j40r4c2@4ax.com...
>>>> JennyC wrote:
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>>>> I see the research is sponsored by the iBtso peeps,
>>>> the well-known molishers of meat-free "gravy" granules.
>>> I was disappointed to note that the chicken-flavoured gravy I got from
>>> Tescoids the other week was not marked as suitabel for veggies,
>>> although apparently containing no chicken at all. I was further
>>> alarmed to note that actually, it makes quite nice gravy. :-/
>>>
>>> ...
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Author: HumbugHumbug Date: Feb 14, 2008 16:20
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:05:41 +0000, Halla
drunkenbastards.spam.com> wrote:
>I can't recall which e-numbers this stuff has, it'll have some and I
>daresay they needed some fat content and it was cheaper to get beef
>fat, or - radical idea - chicken fat instead of the equivalent veg
>stuff. Plus people tend to get a bit sniffy about buying
>meat-flavoured stuff that has no animals at all.
That's always seemed to be daft to me.
If you want to eat something that looks, tastes, smells and has the
texture of meat, then what's the point of *pretending* to be
vegetarian?
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Author: BearBear Date: Feb 14, 2008 22:38
In article Humbug said ...
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:05:41 +0000, Halla
> drunkenbastards.spam.com> wrote:
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>>I can't recall which e-numbers this stuff has, it'll have some and I
>>daresay they needed some fat content and it was cheaper to get beef
>>fat, or - radical idea - chicken fat instead of the equivalent veg
>>stuff. Plus people tend to get a bit sniffy about buying
>>meat-flavoured stuff that has no animals at all.
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> That's always seemed to be daft to me.
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> If you want to eat something that looks, tastes, smells and has the
> texture of meat, then what's the point of *pretending* to be
> vegetarian?
For those who have moral objections to animal farming, but like the
taste of meat?
Note that I don't include myself in that category :)
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Author: zolzol Date: Feb 15, 2008 05:35
"Bear" wrote in message
> So when short on time/inclination, I use the chicken Bisto Best as a
> base, add a little Touch Of Taste liquid chicken stock, and a tiny
> amount of sesame oil. It seems to make a nice, rich gravy without being
> a faff.
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on the few times when i make gravy i use chicken or beef stock, add some
on!on powder and a tiny bit of gravy master ( http://www.gravy.com/). i cook
it down a bit, then add a little arrowroot mixed with stock, bring it to a
boil and it thickens up a bit, then it's ready for whatever i'm using it
for.
zol
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Author: BearBear Date: Feb 15, 2008 06:40
In article zol said ...
> "Bear" wrote in message
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>> So when short on time/inclination, I use the chicken Bisto Best as a
>> base, add a little Touch Of Taste liquid chicken stock, and a tiny
>> amount of sesame oil. It seems to make a nice, rich gravy without being
>> a faff.
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> on the few times when i make gravy i use chicken or beef stock, add some
> on!on powder and a tiny bit of gravy master ( http://www.gravy.com/). i cook
> it down a bit, then add a little arrowroot mixed with stock, bring it to a
> boil and it thickens up a bit, then it's ready for whatever i'm using it
> for.
I forgot - I also sometimes add a couple of tablespoons of white wine in
at the last minute, the rule for cooking with wine apparently being
"either use lots of it along the way and reduce it to remove the alcohol
[1] or put a *tiny* amount in at the last minute".
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Author: Noel FosterNoel Foster Date: Feb 15, 2008 08:27
Bear wrote:
> reduce it to remove the alcohol
????????????? Some mistake, Shirley?
> remove the alcohol
Are you really sure you want to do this????????????
Seems a waste to me.
Noel.
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Author: BearBear Date: Feb 15, 2008 11:16
In article Noel Foster said ...
> Bear wrote:
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>> reduce it to remove the alcohol
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> ????????????? Some mistake, Shirley?
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>> remove the alcohol
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> Are you really sure you want to do this????????????
Yes, I am.
> Seems a waste to me.
We're talking about cooking, not getting pissed.
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