>
>
> Same as I can't see the added value of saying how many children died in
> an accident, plane crash whatever. If it's your own kids it's a tragedy,
> but if you don't know any of the people that died, why would it matter
> how many kids were involved. "A plane crashed the other night killing
> 256 people and 6 children". I don't need to know that. I value all life
> to be the same. The accident will not be worse in my opinion because it
> involved children.
> Standard reply is, "because kids have the future". In which case I often
> counter with "not in this case", which basically ends the discussion
> as people tend to be upset about that.

>
> somebody wrote:

>>
>>
>> I've already talked to doctors, and philosophers. They say my condition is incurable: Someday, I will die.

>
>
> That was a thought-provoking post. It made me think, "Will I
> still be alive when Someone dies?"
>
> LOL, for myself. That's the sort of egotist I am. But I think
> everyone is the same that way, thinking only of themselves. Like,
> when you tell people that you're going to die soon, all they can think
> is, "how old will I be when he dies?", or, "where will I be when it
> happens?", or, "how old will HE be when he dies?" That's always been
> funny to me, the awkwardness of receiving word of someone's death, and
> usually all I can ask is either, "How did he die?", or, "How old was
> he?" Like it fucking mattered.
> ...

> AA gives people an out saying one day at a time,

> "Bob" aol.com> wrote in message
> news:gish2o$4mv$1@news.motzarella.org...
>

>> There are. Whatever works for you,man. Most people can't do it
>> on their own and need a support system. I never really liked the
>> program itself,but realized my way hadn't been working and
>> figured I might as well give a few months to something that had
>> helped lots of people. Meetings I went to for the most part were
>> a speaker or two sharing their own experiences(which I always
>> found very interesting),conversing with others,learning from the
>> guys with a lot of sober years,and not much besides a few
>> minutes of the prayer and higher power stuff. I found that to be
>> an acceptable trade off. I made a few good friends and for the
>> 4 months I went I stayed sober. Even filled in and did a
>> commitment at another group once when someone canceled! It was
>> time better spent then getting fucked up,for me. I actually
>> kinda liked the meetings and left feeling pretty good most of
>> the time. The whole getting arrested thing with 5 years of twice
>> a week piss tests coming up within the next year should be a ...