...was well founded. GB -- My friend Steve is an atheist. He has a bumper sticker that reads "Honk if you love Jesus". When someone honks, he gives them the finger. GB, Thankyou, you have effectively enunciated my own aversion to pprune and things like it. So, tell me, are you happy with most of the bullshit that gets posted here when an accident occurs?? AA
Thought this somewhat appropriate to some of the posts we see on here. http://www.pprune.org/d-g-general-aviation-questions/343258-do-you-fall-into-profile-air-accident-checklist-read-before-making-posts-here.html AA
... a tram can't - and the greater impact deflection of a bus than a tram - same reason. OTOH, it sounds possible from the confused reports so far that the bus's ability to swerve was the problem in the first place (if it swerved into the tram's path to avoid a car: far better to just hit the car and contain the accident there). -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org
... bus is I'd guess the windows just shattered and fell out on impact. The tram seems fairly intact in the pictures. Apart from it having derailed you'd never know it had been in an accident. Must be built a lot stronger than the bus. Maybe the safety bedwetters in the HMRI have done some good after all! Seriously, though, is it any secret that rail vehicles are built much...
... is I'd guess the windows just shattered and fell out on impact. The tram seems fairly intact in the pictures. Apart from it having derailed you'd never know it had been in an accident. Must be built a lot stronger than the bus. Maybe the safety bedwetters in the HMRI have done some good after all! Seriously, though, is it any secret that rail vehicles are built much tougher ...
...'t appear to be much of the upper front window remaining. Well the bus did have an argument with a tram and lost. Given how mangled the front of the bus is I'd guess the windows just shattered and fell out on impact. The tram seems fairly intact in the pictures. Apart from it having derailed you'd never know it had been in an accident. Must be built a lot stronger than the bus. B2003
...crossover could be integrated? Really, though, the solution is just not to build cycle lanes. Copious research shows that in situations like this - indeed, in almost all urban situations - they cause more accidents than they prevent. Anyway, some more dickery in return - i've been meaning to post this photo for ages, and you've prompted me to do so: http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic...
... information suggested. Peter I thought initial reports mentioned 'blood everywhere'?.....only inside the bus then, and likely not even there. The reports I have read suggest the passenger had been upstairs, and was ejected from the bus during (part of) the accident. This would make sense of the confusion as to whether he had been a passenger or a pedestrian. Robin
R.C. Payne wrote: Arthur Figgis wrote: There was an accident involving a bus, a (reported to be parked) car, a tram, and possibly a moving car, in George ... was killed, and the bus driver injured. It seems to be a slightly out-of-the-ordinary accident - the tram and bus have ended up quite a way from each other. http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/latestnews/...
..., 11:47, "R.C. Payne" <rc...@nospam.ac.uk> wrote: Arthur Figgis wrote: There was an accident involving a bus, a (reported to be parked) car, a tram, and possibly a moving car, in... killed, and the bus driver injured. It seems to be a slightly out-of-the-ordinary accident - the tram and bus have ended up quite a way from each other. http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co....