...have now. Is there anyway to just download a plaind old "ring" on it? I mean just a ring, like a telephone makes? There are several available on the phone already. I don't think any sound like an old fashioned phone, though. With the free Nokia PC Suite, it's easy to add any MP3 file to the phone as a ringtone. -- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5